Reading p/a

[jazzy]

A question - is it only me that thinks it is a bit petty when a club announces a home goal scorer by shouting his name and playing music, but doesn't announce the name of the away scorer?

 

[smudge]

Concur!!!

However, I thought it was brill when Jakey scored & we did Tom Hark louder than Reading...without the PA!

 

[Dawsey]

There was also a completely non-existant half-time and full-time scores check, very annoying for us with accumalators

 

[jazzy]

At least we could hear the p/a - some grounds you can't hear a thing!!

 

[Bobby's Gull]

Loud music being played after a goal remnds me of palace. Ergh.

 

[pasty]

I really hate that Tom Hark (music, not NSC's Tom Hark). A number of clubs seem to be doing it now. I just hope and pray we never succumb to it at Withdean.

 

[daveyboybhafc2]

I really hate that Tom Hark (music, not NSC's Tom Hark). A number of clubs seem to be doing it now. I just hope and pray we never succumb to it at Withdean.

I love that song, it reminds me of after the final whistle at cardiff with the guy infront of me going absoloutly mental to it!

 

[Ex Shelton Seagull]

I really hate that Tom Hark (music, not NSC's Tom Hark). A number of clubs seem to be doing it now. I just hope and pray we never succumb to it at Withdean.

I'll second that. I never, never, NEVER, want to hear that tune being played after we score a goal at Withdean. Playing music after you score a goal just seems to suggest that you can't cheer loudly enough, so you have to rely on amplified music.

 

[Jesus Gul]

that song

is it not by the Brighton band The Pirahnas (circa 1979)?

 

[Herne Hill Seagull]

I was really pissed off with that as well.
I look forward to the Half times, and Half time isn't really half time without the other scores.
Maybe teething problems with the new screen?

There was a very obviously working PA though, Royal - almost too loud. They could at least have read the scores out on that. If I had to put up with that every week (did it happen every week last season?) I'd be pretty pissed off too.

Cracking stadium, top weather, good game, BUT: it's a football match, at which football fans gather, to watch football. Being forced to listen to opera (however well sung it may be) at the expense of half time/full time scores, and having goal celebrations choreographed, even if they're not our goals, really gets on my bloody nerves.

Viz another thread, if efforts have been made at the Mad Stad to improve atmosphere, they don't seem to have worked for me. I don't consider loud music after a goal 'atmosphere' - perhaps they'd be better off letting the Reading fans celebrate goals in their own manner, atmosphere would not be an issue then. It's almost counterproductive - Reading score, you can't hear their fans, all you can hear is deafening music. Opponents score, no music, celebrating away fans heard clearly round the stadium. If it ever happens at Withdean/Falmer I'll be mightily pissed off.

 

[SK1NT]

i actually like that tune after a goal! gets me jumping around like a mad man!

I find the teams that use that tune after a goal,usually need to boost their fans.

Pissed off to at no half time results!

 

[Oval Gull]

A question - is it only me that thinks it is a bit petty when a club announces a home goal scorer by shouting his name and playing music, but doesn't announce the name of the away scorer?

Yup, really annoying. And when we came out of the stadium to get a bus back to the station, there were no clear directions as to which bus you needed to catch, as all away fans were herded away from the correct bus stop. Spent 10 minutes queuing at the wrong stop (along with others who made the same mistake) then had to walk all the way round the stadium complex to get back.

grrrr......

 

[saafend_seagull]

ipswich had it for their team as well when we drew 2-2, remember our fans doing it when we scored

and when reading announced their side, why did they give their fans a number?!?! what a joke!

 

[Parson Henry]

Yep I worked in the bank that lent them £500 to cut the disc. What I don't know is whether they wrote the song or whether it was a cover of an earlier release.

Maybe Tom Hark knows?

 

[Deano's Right Foot]

Yep I worked in the bank that lent them £500 to cut the disc. What I don't know is whether they wrote the song or whether it was a cover of an earlier release.

Maybe Tom Hark knows?

Was in a hot for Elias and His ZigZag Jibve in 1958, and then also recorded by the Ted Heath Band in 1960 before the Piranhas revived it.

And who wrote it?

"A tune that simply won't lie down and go away - that's Tom Hark. Regarded as the source of the term kwela, the controversy over its authorship is also typical of the mess left behind by the record industry in the Fifties and Sixties. Once you start to scratch the surface of this era, layers upon layers of conflict, claims and counter-claims are revealed.
Previously in the Mail & Guardian we reported that this song has been attributed to two local musicians and a producer. Now, however, Joe Mogotsi of the Manhattan Brothers is saying the melody was taken from one of his group's songs.

Tom Hark first resurfaced in an article in the Mail & Guardian in September this year, in an interview with Tebego Lerole, son of Elias Lerole and nephew of Aaron Lerole - both major pennywhistlers of the Fifties.

We wrote that Tom Hark was composed by Aaron Lerole, quoting two South African music books available: David Coplan's In Township Tonight and Muff Andersson's Music in the Mix.

That threw the cat among the pigeons, with Tebego's father Elias saying he wrote it. Aaron agreed. An article to this effect was printed in the M&G. But it was also pointed out that it was, in fact, registered at the South African Music Rights Organisation (Samro), to the record's producer at the time, EMI's Rupert Bopape.

Now, however, Joe Mogotsi of the Manhattan Brothers, living in England, has written to the M&G saying his group actually wrote it. "The real origin of this melody is a Manhattan Brothers composition called Komponeng, which was assigned to Gallo Africa and recorded by the Brothers in 1954. Gallo holds evidence of this in their archives," he wrote. "Neither of the people claiming this song have any rights to it. This is another example of how the Manhattan Brothers have been deprived of their rights under the apartheid regime, when we had no access to our publishers Gallo Africa."

He called the song Tom Hawk, but an industry source confirmed that we are all talking about the same song. "The name was supposed to be Tomahawk, because the Lerole brothers were fans of Westerns at the time. But somehow in the production process, it got changed to Tom Hark, so Tom Hawk is another variant."

Telephoned this week, Elias simply said: "Tom Hark is mine. I composed it." But the industry source said: "The melody of Tom Hark, recorded by EMI, was taken from the middle eight bars of Komponeng. It's a mystery why Gallo didn't do anything about it at the time."

The song is also regarded as the source of the term kwela for pennywhistle jive music. As it starts, the listener hears a group of men gambling on a street corner. Seeing a police van approaching they yell "here comes the kwela-kwela", the slang name for the trucks. White teenagers apparently picked up the tag and applied it to the music. "

 

[Parson Henry]

Hands up who remembers their follow-up hit 'Zambesi'?

No one recalls it - let me help you.

Clears throat:

Zambesi, Zambesi, Zambesi who-oh-oh-oh-oh.

I thenk you.