raheem sterling to ask to leave liverpool this summer

[seagulls4ever]

If they had any sense I would demand 20 million plus Walcott for sterling. Basically te same players but Walcott can finish

They're actually quite different players. Walcott has not got a footballing brain and for all his pace doesn't know how to take players on. Sterling has the potential to me much, much better. Though Walcott has a better finish though, as you mention. That said, he is 26 now and has had to work on it a lot.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

They're actually quite different players. Walcott has not got a footballing brain and for all his pace doesn't know how to take players on. Sterling has the potential to me much, much better. Though Walcott has a better finish though, as you mention. That said, he is 26 now and has had to work on it a lot.

I've lost count of the number of English players who, like Sterling, were bigged up at 20 and tailed off at 25. It was also noticeable at the World Cup that there were many 21-23 year olds way more advanced than Stirling will probably be in 2-3 years time. In my opinion, he ain't that good.

 

[BigGully]

I've lost count of the number of English players who, like Sterling, were bigged up at 20 and tailed off at 25. It was also noticeable at the World Cup that there were many 21-23 year olds way more advanced than Stirling will probably be in 2-3 years time. In my opinion, he ain't that good.

Thought he was perhaps one of the successes of our WC campaign, so if you saw him just then without any real knowledge or prejudice I am sure you might have cited him as one of your outstanding youngsters.

I am not sure how other countries press treat their up and coming youngsters, but here in England it can be pretty brutal, I tend to think he gets a bad deal, I cannot think of too many interviews where he hasn't said the right stuff, train and play hard and try and improve each day was the mantra, but seems to have got lost in a environment of venom towards him.

 

[Pavilionaire]

At first glance this looks like a young player being badly advised and turning into a big time Charlie. Coutinho, Henderson and Sturridge have all signed new deals and with those big guns committed it therefore seems logical for Sterling to do the same.

Yet the more the exit of Steven Gerrard is hyped up the more uncertain the future seems for Liverpool FC, and in order to get Champions League football they'll need to finish above one of Chelsea, Arsenal, Man City and Man Utd - that doesn't look likely any time soon.

Sterling looks like being the perfect upgrade for Jesus Navas at Man City. Navas turns 30 this year, no Prem goals this season but has started in two-thirds of the matches and been sub for most of the remainder. If he's leaving Liverpool to replace Navas in the City side then it all starts to make a lot of sense for the lad.

 

[bluenitsuj]

He is not very good

 

[Mo Gosfield]

Sterling could get Whitesided in pre season and it'll all be over, what then?

Massive insurance payment and together with his substantial earnings thus far ( + investments ) he can happily retire, knowing he never has to work again.

 

[Mo Gosfield]

Would you want to play for that useless manager Rodgers?

Hang on...wasn't he sacked by Reading?

 

[Stat Brother]

Massive insurance payment and together with his substantial earnings thus far ( + investments ) he can happily retire, knowing he never has to work again.

Hang on NSC can't have it both ways.

It can't say he's a greedy money grabbing parasite one minute.
But also say if it all ended horribly tomorrow at least he'll have money to fall back on.

 

[Mo Gosfield]

I do think it says at lot about Rodgers as a manager, Gerrard has left, Sterling wants to leave.

Is it that Rodgers isn't a very good manager?

I know one thing...he's a bloody good talker.

 

[Mo Gosfield]

Or perhaps he wants to finish his career with trophy's and doesn't feel he'll achieve that with Liverpool. Just a thought

He should concentrate on starting his career.

 

[Mo Gosfield]

While Sterling has been playing week in, week out this season for Liverpool and England, Daniel Sturridge has been sitting on a treatment table for a year, picking up £150,000 a week. Sterling is going to look at that, coupled with the GARGANTUAN new £5 billion TV deal (a 71% increase) which has totally rewritten the financial landscape in the game, and think "well...why should I commit to £100k a week then ?"

Rodgers has also gone on record and described Sterling as being "the best young player in Europe", so of course he's going to have a hugely inflated opinion of himself. If his own manager is saying that, then he'll be of a mind to say "well give me a contract that reflects that then".

Its ****ed up, but that's football nowadays. The sheer scale of money washing around in the game, particularly since the new TV deal, has changed everything. Its distasteful, vulgar and depressing, but PL footballers will look at all that extra new money and think "yup, I'm having some of that".

...and they will get it and they won't produce anymore. In fact, they will just get greedier and greedier and ultimately lazier and lazier. More short cuts, more gamesmanship ( cheating ) and less and less value for money for the fans.

 

[Mo Gosfield]

I genuinely wonder how important titles, and medals actually ARE to some players. If, as has been alluded to here, it's all about the money, then it's possible he just has eyes on the bumper pay packet that he will undoubtedly get, and sod the rest of it, regardless of what they say. Yes, go to a club that wins titles and you stand to earn more, but THAT is probably the focus for some, rather than the glory of being title-winners.

Same with national caps. I bet some players aren't fussed about playing – or winning – for England, despite what they say publicly.

So what is the aim of a professional footballer? In most other sports its all about winning titles, trophies and medals. How have we bred this generation of players who are just in it for the money? In days gone by, every player aspired to be capped by England and to play at Wembley in an FA Cup Final.
Scenario.....2055..." so what did you win in your career, Grandad? "

 

[Mo Gosfield]

Mourinho summed it up when he threw his Premier League champions medal into the crowd. Also the fact that the Premier League trophy looks like the sort of thing you could buy in Poundland or any fancy dress/party shop doesn't help.

Which eventually found its way back to him, courtesy of a private financial arrangement.

 

[Mo Gosfield]

I've lost count of the number of English players who, like Sterling, were bigged up at 20 and tailed off at 25. It was also noticeable at the World Cup that there were many 21-23 year olds way more advanced than Stirling will probably be in 2-3 years time. In my opinion, he ain't that good.

...is the correct answer.

 

[Mo Gosfield]

Thought he was perhaps one of the successes of our WC campaign, so if you saw him just then without any real knowledge or prejudice I am sure you might have cited him as one of your outstanding youngsters.

I am not sure how other countries press treat their up and coming youngsters, but here in England it can be pretty brutal, I tend to think he gets a bad deal, I cannot think of too many interviews where he hasn't said the right stuff, train and play hard and try and improve each day was the mantra, but seems to have got lost in a environment of venom towards him.

...one of the successes of our WC campaign...blimey...how low are your standards?

 

[Stat Brother]

...is the correct answer.

But that has nothing to do with Sterling, his current wage, and the wage a prospective employer is prepared to pay.

 

[Mo Gosfield]

Hang on NSC can't have it both ways.

It can't say he's a greedy money grabbing parasite one minute.
But also say if it all ended horribly tomorrow at least he'll have money to fall back on.

Yes I can...just answering your question.

 

[Mo Gosfield]

But that has nothing to do with Sterling, his current wage, and the wage a prospective employer is prepared to pay.

Yes it does. Footballers wages are an emotive subject. Fans judge a player on what he contributes. This is a young man just starting out. He hasn't proved himself over a period of time yet. In fact, he has been poor in recent months. They see him turning his nose up at £5MILLION POUNDS A YEAR, playing for one of the leading sides in the country and it upsets people. It smacks of Ashley Cole all over again and he was never allowed to forget it, even though he was an established player.
At the moment, I don't see him as this potential world-beater, that others see in him. He is clearly in the hands of a greedy agent and that is doing him no good at all.

 

[Stat Brother]

Yes it does. Footballers wages are an emotive subject. Fans judge a player on what he contributes. This is a young man just starting out. He hasn't proved himself over a period of time yet. In fact, he has been poor in recent months. They see him turning his nose up at £5MILLION POUNDS A YEAR, playing for one of the leading sides in the country and it upsets people. It smacks of Ashley Cole all over again and he was never allowed to forget it, even though he was an established player.
At the moment, I don't see him as this potential world-beater, that others see in him. He is clearly in the hands of a greedy agent and that is doing him no good at all.

Lucky for you, you're not being demanded to pay his wages.

Oh wait that's right, nobody has to pay his wage demands.

As wrong as it is, I feel dirty even writing it, Ashley Cole's offer from Arsenal was insulting.
It was insulting because there was a host of other clubs prepared to pay significantly more.
History would suggest Chelsea may even have undervalued him at the time, as well.

If there's a host of idiots, with more money than sense, prepared to pay Sterling, why the feck should he say:-
'Actually you know what, I don't feel I've earned the right to be paid that much money'.

 

[Greg Bobkin]

So what is the aim of a professional footballer? In most other sports its all about winning titles, trophies and medals. How have we bred this generation of players who are just in it for the money? In days gone by, every player aspired to be capped by England and to play at Wembley in an FA Cup Final.
Scenario.....2055..." so what did you win in your career, Grandad? "

I'm not saying it's the case for all of them but there are players – Zamora, for example – who don't enjoy playing football, and see it it as just a job. That means that they might not care (or might not care AS MUCH as others) when it comes to actually winning trophies, but they know if they do win trophies, they get more money. You only have to look at the attitude of some of the players that couldn't care less about the clubs they play for - they are only interested in the pay check.

I think the AMOUNT of money being paid to these players in wages – and the fees being paid to clubs – isn't helping the mercenary approach, and players that are in it for the money. Players such as Sterling have everything handed to them on a plate and have a team of people around them (agents, and the like) – not like in the old days when there were apprentices having to muck in, clean boots, show some respect to the senior players. I'm not naïve enough to think that would ever happen again, but when Real Madrid buy a 16-year-old for an extortionate amount of money, or when seemingly mediocre players are commanding tens of millions of pounds, there's got to be something wrong. I don't hold the players entirely responsible, by the way, as they know no different. It's the industry of football that continues to eat itself.

I remember after London 2012, there was deserved praise of all the athletes (from Team GB and elsewhere) that had achieved something at the games and made it what it was. At the same time, parallels were drawn with the multi-millionaire footballers and who is the better role model, who deserves the plaudits, and how we should re-assess how we hold footballers up on a pedestal higher than any other sportsperson in the country. Fast forward a few years and all that seems to be gone, which is a shame. The trouble is, the situation is only going to get worse, as more and more money is poured into the game, the 'pressure' to stay in the PL continues to ramp up, and there will eventually be such a gulf between Championship and Premier League that 17 clubs will remain in there forever, with three from each of the divisions swapping with each other every season.

In truth, I can see a time when Phil Gartside's suggestion of no relegation from the Premier League does become a reality, because the power of the clubs and the players will be so strong, any governing body won't be in a position to stop it.

*stands down from soap box*