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Racism's Nigel Farage is at it again...
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isn't trolling like tea bagging only in the toilet...??
Tyrone Biggums
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Not my cup of tea i'm afraid...
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Black people are lazy. IS a racist comment. You mustbetrolling.
spring hall convert
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If you could bring yourself to ignore such a horrific and unforgivable mistake you'll notice that his capacity for racial offense covers the spectrum.
Which when you consider that he isn't a racist must make him really unfortunate or really dumb.
Lincoln Imp
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Of course you're right. American commentators are wondering if Trump can ride the tide of anti-elitism that the predominantly rightwing Brexit leaders did so well in England and Wales. As Farage says "He's trying to reach voters who feel... a little bit scared. Occasionally it makes even me wince a little bit."
He may be wincing slightly - as Gove did when he saw Farage's nasty Syrian poster presumably - but there is no doubt at all that the two campaigns are filling up from the same pump. An anti-elitist finger in the air was a dominant theme of the Brexit vote. If America votes Trump to power huge numbers of Brexit voters are in no position at all to criticise them. They did the same, and the consequences will last a whole lot longer than four years.
I can't stand Farage and Trump is an absolute moron.
As such I pay no attention to what either of them do. Equally, I see no point in starting threads to sanctimoniously comment on the drivel spouting from either of them this week. It's dull and pointless.
As such I pay no attention to what either of them do. Equally, I see no point in starting threads to sanctimoniously comment on the drivel spouting from either of them this week. It's dull and pointless.
spring hall convert
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***rolls sleeves up, sucks cheeks in***
I have a friend of Romany descent, who is a big Swindon fan (I make no judgement)
I have been known on occasion to use the word pikey when referring to our friends from Croydon, strictly in a football 'banter' perspective.
She made her disapproval very clear, when I did this in her presence and I wasn't really going to have a conversation about whether the Roma are an ethnic group or a race.
Which is a long winded way of saying, yes, I probably do.
I also think a lot of the time we end up getting sucked up into a red herring conversation about race, when it's actually the ism/phobia and the capacity for that prejudice that's the problem.
Tyrone Biggums
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OK I change my stance, he's racist. Now what?
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Hopefully you stop typing?
spring hall convert
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For sure. This was evident to me during the campaign when it was abundantly clear that the establishment voices weren't getting through. You remember that bit when Major had a go at Boris, I was genuinely baffled what part of the leave demographic that was trying to appeal to...
And when I said earlier that I could have voted leave that poster (which I believe to be racist, though I can understand why some don't) was the single most important reason for not doing so. Couldn't align myself with that.
The question is, we can identify it, what can we do about it? The tactics so far have been ignore or belittle. We need to identify the cause rather than unsuccessfully trying to engage with the symptom.
Well, that sentence certainly is a racist comment. The following 'sentence' ("IS a racist comment") isn't a proper sentence.
Tyrone Biggums
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Never. Not until you start a thread on what an utter peice of shit Clinton is and how she is a far more vile human than Trump.
Vote Gary Johnson.
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Oh dear. Picking out Typos. The last vestige of the desperate. I typed a full stop by accident. I am glad we can agree on the important, relevant aspect of the post though.
Green Cross Code Man
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Part of the problem with American politics. Neither side offer a good alternative.
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Good for you. Never surrender.
Tyrone Biggums
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The fact so many simpletons think the Democrats are this wonderful progressive think tank boggles the mind. It's a perfect example of how stupid people can be manipulated so easily because they think they are smart enough not to be puppets while their strings are being pulled constantly.
spring hall convert
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I have more sympathy for this than you might think. I do genuinely see that globalization affected the American white working class greatly, as it has in this country. There's two things that concern me though;
a) Why couldn't Trump get this across as an Independent, you could easily substitute the word Democrat there for Republican. Both parties have been willing accomplices to the process that Trump talks about.
b) I have no problem with Trump attacking the American establishment. He's right about quite a lot of things. Why does he have to catch some many minorities in the cross fire though and why does he have to talk about minorities in such divisive and offensive terms?
Desperate, me? You really are in cloud cuckoo land! I'm just rather amused by the chance of pointing out ineptitude amongst those desperate enough to start another thread to give them another chance to chant their favourite mantra, racism.
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It was actually other people that made the whole thing about racism. Look at the thread title: "Racism's Nigel Farage". It's a Ricky Gervais joke from a year or two ago. If you cannot see that, I cannot help you (cue the total misinterpretation of that and accusations of I'm only saying it's a joke now etc) Though I am happy to say quite clearly, I think Trump is a racist.
Itm was one of the usual suspects that jumped up and down saying I was starting a thread calling racism. I wasn't as it happens. I later said it was a racist act but that was not the OP. I said he was a nasty piece of work.
I do think the pair of them are racist. Farage is just clever enough these days not to be too explicit.
Besides, if you don't like the look of a thread, move along. I am hardly likely to stop posting what interests me just because a few right wing gobshites don't like it.
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Tyrone Biggums
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I think it might come down to the fact there's non compulsary voting in the US.
To get anyone to get up off their arse and vote you have to go to the extreme to get people whipped up enough into a hysteria that they actually bother to vote.
For all the hoo-ha about Obama over his tenure over 35% of blacks still didn't bother to vote in the last election.
If a potentially changing event like the first black president can't get a large amount black people out to vote imagine how many of the white voting public can't be bothered to vote with the US political landscape at present.
He's tried to light a fire under the arses of a section of diseffected voters by trying to whip them into enough of a frenzy to get them engaged. Time will tell how it impacted his vote.