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The Clamp

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What is racist about building a wall to keep illegal immigrants out of your country? There are processes by which Mexicans can apply to live and work in the USA. If their applications fail what right have they to swim across the Rio Grande to try and enter the country illegally?

Nothiong wrong with protecting borders. Are you seriously suggesting though, that it's a reasonable idea to force Mexicans to build a wall? Seriously?!
 


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I think one of the key players in Brexit, leader of a very questionable and controversial political party in the UK now crops up in the US supporting a very questionable and controversial Presidential runner is actually very interesting news, whatever side of the fence one sits on. Interesting.

Being Anti EU because you didn't like the way the organisation is run, and asking for a sensible border policy was never Racist.
 


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I already sieved through your poor attempts at justifying your drivel, just wondered if you had conjured up a stronger argument in the mean time. Appears not.

Gutted.

Trump is a racist man. Farage is supporting him. I have drawn conclusions, you have drawn different conclusions. Such is life.
 




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Being Anti EU because you didn't like the way the organisation is run, and asking for a sensible border policy was never Racist.

It is hugely hypocritical though, as Farage continues to TAKE their / your money while claiming they are corrupt.
 


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It is hugely hypocritical though, as Farage continues to TAKE their / your money while claiming they are corrupt.

We won't agree on this one ever I'm afraid, so let's just get back to supporting the Albion.
 


Tyrone Biggums

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Whilst there's a bit of rounding up going on there depending where you consult, there is no denying that is a shocking figure.

However, are you really trying to argue that 'laziness is a trait in blacks' isn't a racist statement?

Depends. Is it only racist when it's a negative? What are the rules when it comes to making an observation?
 




sussex_guy2k2

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I've looked into many things, still don't consider Trump a racist.

Trump has never said he disliked Mexicans. He dislikes illegal immigrants crossing the border unchecked. See right there in the way you framed your response you're creating a false narrative.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-racist-examples_us_56d47177e4b03260bf777e83 doesn't take more than about 10 seconds to search the internet for examples of Trump's racism. Or you could just watch TV and listen to the words he says. Or maybe you're just trolling. I suspect the latter.
 


Tyrone Biggums

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So all the 'offended by anything and everything' brigade think Trump is racist.I'm sure he's bound to take notice of your views and reform :lolol:
 




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So all the 'offended by anything and everything' brigade think Trump is racist.I'm sure he's bound to take notice of your views and reform :lolol:

People don't necessarily discuss things to bring about reform. People discuss subjects to further understanding and gather opinions and views. Or, as you do, to troll. Trump is a racist man and I'm pretty certain he doesn't give a toss.

If he's not racist he sure does say a lot of daft, racist crap.
 




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Depends. Is it only racist when it's a negative? What are the rules when it comes to making an observation?

No it's not. There's a commonly attributed 'positive' attribute surrounding black men that when said in a particular way is racist.

In this particular example, Trump takes a characteristic that he has personal experience of and stereo-typically attributes it to all black people specifically. That's racist. Especially when you are talking about a vague concept like laziness, where definition will alter variably according to different people and where there's no real way of measuring it.

I mean think I'm pretty lazy, some people agree with that, some people don't. Who's to say?
 




Tyrone Biggums

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No it's not. There's a commonly attributed 'positive' attribute surrounding black men that when said in a particular way is racist.

In this particular example, Trump takes a characteristic that he has personal experience of and stereo-typically attributes it to all black people specifically. That's racist. Especially when you are talking about a vague concept like laziness, where definition will alter variably according to different people and where there's no real way of measuring it.

I mean think I'm pretty lazy, some people agree with that, some people don't. Who's to say?

So is it racist when people attack the Travellers as all being thieves and countless other negative stereotypes?

Just trying to work out if this is one of those things where it can only be applied to certain people and not everyone.
 










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