[Football] Question

[Garrett]

In no other league, do I see so much clinching, shirt pulling, embracing from behind etc as in the EPL. Long ago, we were only allowed to use shoulders to fend off attackers .Is this UEFA sanctioned? I do not see this stuff in FIFA qualifiers.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Agree it’s quite weird and seemingly unique to England. There was a drive to stop it a few years ago. This lasted about 3 games into the season.

 

[tedebear]

I agree, particularly when waiting for a corner, its getting stupid and the aggro it creates is annoying....

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

It's particularly out of control at corners where it invariably turns into a grappling match

 

[Hamilton]

Start awarding penalties. That should stop it.

 

[zefarelly]

If you want to play rugby and hug boys there are plenty of places to do it. A football pitch isn't one of them.

 

[Cheggers]

We are a nation of huggers. It must give the players a warm, fuzzy feeling.

 

[nickbrighton]

"All" that has to be done to stop all of the shirt pulling, hugging, wrestling, time wasting et all is for referees to start enforcing all the existing rules all the time for all the teams.

 

[Cheeky Monkey]

#Beyonce/Destiny's Child

 

[Han Solo]

"All" that has to be done to stop all of the shirt pulling, hugging, wrestling, time wasting et all is for referees to start enforcing all the existing rules all the time for all the teams.






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Which imo can't happen before the clubs, players and league go through a culture change and not always try to bend the rules. Or alternatively use VAR all the time in every situation. Its not humanly possible for a ref to detect every single case of shirt pulling etc at for example corners.

Its too bad. Football has usually been refereed by common sense first and the laws of the game next, but that way of leniency and player-ref understanding of course can't exist in a world where the club, players and managers all try to f*** the ref over before, during and after games.

So yeah maybe an all-seeing VAR and sending off multiple players per game might be the only future if the football management/playing community doesn't get a grip about all the shit its ruining itself with.

 

[Bodian]

Which imo can't happen before the clubs, players and league go through a culture change and not always try to bend the rules. Or alternatively use VAR all the time in every situation. Its not humanly possible for a ref to detect every single case of shirt pulling etc at for example corners.

Its too bad. Football has usually been refereed by common sense first and the laws of the game next, but that way of leniency and player-ref understanding of course can't exist in a world where the club, players and managers all try to f*** the ref over before, during and after games.

So yeah maybe an all-seeing VAR and sending off multiple players per game might be the only future if the football management/playing community doesn't get a grip about all the shit its ruining itself with.

Wouldn't need VAR. Start awarding a few penalties, and the grappling would stop pretty quickly. Didn't they do this in the world cup or Euros a while ago - and England had a few penalties out of it. It was pretty non-existent for the rest of the tournament.

Ditto - dissent, diving, and all the other stuff that could be stamped out with the right consistent punishment from refs. After all, kicking the ball away to stop free-kicks has reduced tremendously since some/most refs started booking players for it. Especially when they are second bookings...

 

[Madafwo]

In no other league, do I see so much clinching, shirt pulling, embracing from behind etc as in the EPL. Long ago, we were only allowed to use shoulders to fend off attackers .Is this UEFA sanctioned? I do not see this stuff in FIFA qualifiers.

Tell me what you feel about this?

 

[studio150]

As other have said, start awarding penalties. I would go further and make it a mandatory yellow card as well.

 

[7dialssouthpaw]

grease up beforehand - always worked for me

 

[Brian Fantana]

Start awarding penalties. That should stop it.

There was a period of time a couple of years ago where there were a few penalties given in a short space of time for shirt pulling. Then refs just started ignoring it again.

 

[nickbrighton]

There was a period of time a couple of years ago where there were a few penalties given in a short space of time for shirt pulling. Then refs just started ignoring it again.

it seems that for the past few years, at the start of the season there is an announcement that Refs will crackdown on whatever the latest gripe is- time wasting, delaying the restart, players surrounding the refs, etc, For the first few matches a couple of yellow cards are given and then its just dropped and everything reverts to usual

 

[METALMICKY]

Agree it’s quite weird and seemingly unique to England. There was a drive to stop it a few years ago. This lasted about 3 games into the season.

Adam El Abd would have needed to retire from football in his day!

 

[Dorset Seagull]

Half the problem is the referees coaching in this situation. They stop the corner being taken and then have words with the culprits. Since when has it been their job to get involved when the ball is dead. Just leave everyone alone and as soon as the corner is taken that is the time to intervene and apply the laws of the game for the correct outcome.

 

[Superphil]

Agree it’s quite weird and seemingly unique to England. There was a drive to stop it a few years ago. This lasted about 3 games into the season.

It lasted as long as it took the managers of United, Arsenal, Spurs, Chelsea and Man City to make their ‘representations’ to PGMOL.

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

grease up beforehand - always worked for me

But how did you avoid having your shirt pulled in the penalty area?