[Football] "Quality Signings"

[Perkino]

It makes me laugh how many fans phone in to talk sport to moan that their club need to go and spend big this window.

A discussion around Spurs and how poor Ange hasn't been backed as they only signed youngsters in the summer.

Then I thought how many of our team yesterday had any premier league experience before we signed them...

 

[Lady Whistledown]

Funny- there was a piece on the transfer window in The Athletic a couple of days ago, and their Liverpool correspondent James Pearce added a section relating to the probable (lack of) incomings for them this month.

The replies were truly a sight to behold. Dozens and dozens of angry LFC fans accusing him of being a patsy and a mouthpiece for the club: spitting venom about the supposed mismanagement of FSG and their complete unwillingness to try and improve the squad and generally making out that they're in an absolute state. Pearce pointed out that Liverpool are currently six points clear at the top of the Premier League and on course to win their first worthwhile title in over 30 years, in both English cup competitions still, and leading the Champions League standings.

Made no odds: they still continued to whine incessantly about how bad their owners are, presumably because Liverpool haven't yet signed Gyökeres and Isak and Lamine Yamal, and probably because the Caicedo thing still hurts.

The sense of entitlement was palpable.

 

[JBizzle]

Along these lines, I was listening to a podcast on the way to work this morning and they were making the point that Iraola can come in and make an impact on a fairly poor squad immediately, as could Nuno and a couple of others, but the narrative with the top clubs, i.e. Man United, is always that the manager needs 2-3 windows before they can possibly be expected to compete.

Why aren't these coaches expected to, you know, coach?

 

[Guinness Boy]

Funny- there was a piece on the transfer window in The Athletic a couple of days ago, and their Liverpool correspondent James Pearce added a section relating to the probable (lack of) incomings for them this month.

The replies were truly a sight to behold. Dozens and dozens of angry LFC fans accusing him of being a patsy and a mouthpiece for the club: spitting venom about the supposed mismanagement of FSG and their complete unwillingness to try and improve the squad and generally making out that they're in an absolute state. Pearce pointed out that Liverpool are currently six points clear at the top of the Premier League and on course to win their first worthwhile title in over 30 years, in both English cup competitions still, and leading the Champions League standings.

Made no odds: they still continued to whine incessantly about how bad their owners are, presumably because Liverpool haven't yet signed Gyökeres and Isak and Lamine Yamal, and probably because the Caicedo thing still hurts.

The sense of entitlement was palpable.

The bouncing of the Winstanley thread made me think of this but in Chelsea. Unlike Liverpool they have no realistic chance of the Premier League title this season and have underachieved compared to spend ever since The Todd arrived. Their fans have become, essentially, a fanbase who celebrate signing players like a trophy. Like paying over the odds for players and having a bomb squad is somehow trophy worthy.

But of course, in both cases, it's not your geezer from Hayes who's been in the same place in the Shed End all his life writing this bollocks, nor would it be the two blokes we met before the Liverpool game in the Ship and Mitre who were annoyed because the Tier One for their next European away was anyone who'd done the last 27 European games consecutively and they'd only done 26. It's that special breed, the foreign online fan, people who watch every game on telly or a mardy stream but couldn't find Anfield or Stamford Bridge on a map. They manage to combine a special kind of entitlement with an incredible level of ignorance and they all follow each other to create an enormous bubble of stupidity. Frankly, once again, I blame the internet.

 

[PascalGroß Tips]

Funny- there was a piece on the transfer window in The Athletic a couple of days ago, and their Liverpool correspondent James Pearce added a section relating to the probable (lack of) incomings for them this month.

The replies were truly a sight to behold. Dozens and dozens of angry LFC fans accusing him of being a patsy and a mouthpiece for the club: spitting venom about the supposed mismanagement of FSG and their complete unwillingness to try and improve the squad and generally making out that they're in an absolute state. Pearce pointed out that Liverpool are currently six points clear at the top of the Premier League and on course to win their first worthwhile title in over 30 years, in both English cup competitions still, and leading the Champions League standings.

Made no odds: they still continued to whine incessantly about how bad their owners are, presumably because Liverpool haven't yet signed Gyökeres and Isak and Lamine Yamal, and probably because the Caicedo thing still hurts.

The sense of entitlement was palpable.

I wonder though - how many of these fans actually go to games. And also how many are in England, let alone Liverpool.

I see similar angry comments online all the time for the so called big clubs - many of which live nowhere near the UK. They make a lot of noise on social media etc - but are irrelevant and must piss of those that go to games.

 

[PascalGroß Tips]

The bouncing of the Winstanley thread made me think of this but in Chelsea. Unlike Liverpool they have no realistic chance of the Premier League title this season and have underachieved compared to spend ever since The Todd arrived. Their fans have become, essentially, a fanbase who celebrate signing players like a trophy. Like paying over the odds for players and having a bomb squad is somehow trophy worthy.

But of course, in both cases, it's not your geezer from Hayes who's been in the same place in the Shed End all his life writing this bollocks, nor would it be the two blokes we met before the Liverpool game in the Ship and Mitre who were annoyed because the Tier One for their next European away was anyone who'd done the last 27 European games consecutively and they'd only done 26. It's that special breed, the foreign online fan, people who watch every game on telly or a mardy stream but couldn't find Anfield or Stamford Bridge on a map. They manage to combine a special kind of entitlement with an incredible level of ignorance and they all follow each other to create an enormous bubble of stupidity. Frankly, once again, I blame the internet.

Snap

 

[Not Andy Naylor]

I was mildly annoyed by suggestions that six of our team yesterday would make the Manchester United starting XI. First, why would they want to (actually I already know the answer, so don't bother replying), but mainly - only six?

 

[Han Solo]

Babylon Disease.

People want new players for the same reason they want a new phone every year despite already having one: they want literally endless amounts of "things". Up until the mid 1980s "what I have" was a more common phrase in magazines and litterature (sauce: ngram) than "what I want", a mentality that affects everything including peoples relation with football clubs.

One of the main developments to come from that is that fans don't like players brought up in the club. No way could your home-programmed Apple phone be as good as the ones in the commercials that costs £1000. And so Lewis Dunk becomes "Championship level", Curtis Jones, Jarrel Quansah and Conor Bradley a sign of "weakness" and "mismanagement". Marcus Rashford was fine as long as he was smiling and scoring goals. As soon as he had it a little rougher, United fans turned on him.

So it goes. People want things. A Premier League club could buy every player in the world and people would still ask for more.

Lets hope all these wankers get what they want. Especially the Liverpool people; their academy has bailed them out more times in the last ten years than their recruitment has so lets hope they replace all their hard working academy youngsters with £100m mercenaries like they want and see where it takes them.

The most lovely thing about Manchester Citys injury crisis a few months ago was the "oops, unfortunately we've sold all our good academy players so we have nothing near Premier League quality outside our first team squad"... FINALLY suffering the consequences of being a hollow and soulless football club.

 

[OvingdeanSeagull]

I was mildly annoyed by suggestions that six of our team yesterday would make the Manchester United starting XI. First, why would they want to (actually I already know the answer, so don't bother replying), but mainly - only six?

Looking through their team yesterday, I really struggle to find any like for like swap with them that I'd accept. Maybe Mainoo for Ayari? But then Ayari had his best game for us yet and he seems to be constantly improving, so maybe not even that.

Their squad genuinely isn't even much better than their league position suggests and that XI yesterday cost them almost £500m. Wow

 

[pigmanovich]

Looking through their team yesterday, I really struggle to find any like for like swap with them that I'd accept.

Yep. Amad's decision making in the final third is better than Minteh's, but he is admittedly two years older and has played more football in more competitive leagues. So only a slight upgrade.

Yoro is highly rated but one for the future so it's a no for now. Dalot had a good 2023/24, but on his current form, I wouldn't take him either.

 

[Han Solo]

Looking through their team yesterday, I really struggle to find any like for like swap with them that I'd accept. Maybe Mainoo for Ayari? But then Ayari had his best game for us yet and he seems to be constantly improving, so maybe not even that.

Their squad genuinely isn't even much better than their league position suggests and that XI yesterday cost them almost £500m. Wow

Think its so hard to tell. Many of their players would probably look better if they weren't playing in the biggest failure of European sports. Of couse bad recruitment and bad players play a huge part in it... but the players are individually still better than they're showing in a lot of cases.

I listened to a long interview about Anthony Elanga explaining how demotivating and empty it felt playing for United compared to Nottingham. So he's gone from being a backup there to a key player for Nottingham. I think several other United players could get that development if they only leave that stinking mess behind.

 

[ConfusedGloryHunter]

I was mildly annoyed by suggestions that six of our team yesterday would make the Manchester United starting XI. First, why would they want to (actually I already know the answer, so don't bother replying), but mainly - only six?

Oooo good game. What 5 Man U players are better than their Brighton counterparts based on yesterday?

 

[Mellotron]

Pearce pointed out that Liverpool are currently six points clear at the top of the Premier League and on course to win their first worthwhile title in over 30 years,

Hang on - 19/20 Premier League and 18/19 Champions League aren't worthwhile titles?

 

[OvingdeanSeagull]

Think its so hard to tell. Many of their players would probably look better if they weren't playing in the biggest failure of European sports. Of couse bad recruitment and bad players play a huge part in it... but the players are individually still better than they're showing in a lot of cases.

I listened to a long interview about Anthony Elanga explaining how demotivating and empty it felt playing for United compared to Nottingham. So he's gone from being a backup there to a key player for Nottingham. I think several other United players could get that development if they only leave that stinking mess behind.

Yeah, you are right of course. On paper, De Ligt and Ugarte should be brilliant players, and Fernandes has been world class over the years. Nowadays, I'd have Van Hecke, Baleba and Pedro/Rutter over them every time but who knows how they'd perform in our team!

 

[maltaseagull]

Yeah, you are right of course. On paper, De Ligt and Ugarte should be brilliant players, and Fernandes has been world class over the years. Nowadays, I'd have Van Hecke, Baleba and Pedro/Rutter over them every time but who knows how they'd perform in our team!

I would like to think that if the Albion ever signed Fernandes that they would be playing in front of a half full stadium. If that cheating arrogant pr*ck ever signed for us, I would support Peacehaven.

 

[Han Solo]

I would like to think that if the Albion ever signed Fernandes that they would be playing in front of a half full stadium. If that cheating arrogant pr*ck ever signed for us, I would support Peacehaven.

The lack of Portuguese players at the club is one of the best things about Brighton.

 

[Gwylan]

Oooo good game. What 5 Man U players are better than their Brighton counterparts based on yesterday?

Well, the six players mentioned were Verbruggen, Estupinan, Baleba, Minteh, Mitoma and Joao Pedro.

So, Ayari, who ran the midfield yesterday and Veltman, candidate for PotS don't deserve a mention (and anyone who'd have Yoro over our Joel must be a bit soft in the head)

 

[ConfusedGloryHunter]

Well, the six players mentioned were Verbruggen, Estupinan, Baleba, Minteh, Mitoma and Joao Pedro.

So, Ayari, who ran the midfield yesterday and Veltman, candidate for PotS don't deserve a mention (and anyone who'd have Yoro over our Joel must be a bit soft in the head)

And their centre backs are all better than Van Hecke?

 

[Simster]

And their centre backs are all better than Van Hecke?

Yes this is particularly amusing.

 

[Crawley Dingo]

Made no odds: they still continued to whine incessantly.....

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