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QPR chief exec on 'no relegation' - utter disgrace



Tooting Gull

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Jul 5, 2003
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This has just been said at the Soccerex gathering. QPR CEO Philip Beard: "If I could vote for no relegation tomorrow, of course I'd vote for it."

Unbelievable. This is a club who has not been in the Premier League for 16 years, could well drop out after just a season, and would have liked to get rid of relegation for the one season where they happened to get promoted.

I have predicted for years this was coming (ironically not from the biggest clubs this time), and I still think it might. But for a QPR executive to say it is even worse than Bolton etc.
 




hans kraay fan club

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Mar 16, 2005
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This has just been said at the Soccerex gathering. QPR CEO Philip Beard: "If I could vote for no relegation tomorrow, of course I'd vote for it."

Unbelievable. This is a club who has not been in the Premier League for 16 years, could well drop out after just a season, and would have liked to get rid of relegation for the one season where they happened to get promoted.

I have predicted for years this was coming (ironically not from the biggest clubs this time), and I still think it might. But for a QPR executive to say it is even worse than Bolton etc.

So hope they go down with Bolton.
 




mejonaNO12 aka riskit

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Dec 4, 2003
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I honestly mean this. If this ever happened I would stop watching The Albion.

The whole point of football is to score more goals than the other team, to then win the match, to then gain points, to then be promoted. Thats the WHOLE point of playing the match.

I couldn't watch a game if, ultimately, you couldn't achieve the whole point of the match itself.

You'd score a goal and just think 'oh, well that's nice'
 


Notters

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Oct 20, 2003
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Guiseley
I honestly mean this. If this ever happened I would stop watching The Albion.

The whole point of football is to score more goals than the other team, to then win the match, to then gain points, to then be promoted. Thats the WHOLE point of playing the match.

I couldn't watch a game if, ultimately, you couldn't achieve the whole point of the match itself.

You'd score a goal and just think 'oh, well that's nice'

I'd also stop going to games if our chairman said such a thing. I hope the QPRsole fans make their feelings known.
 








brightn'ove

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Apr 12, 2011
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London
I honestly mean this. If this ever happened I would stop watching The Albion.

The whole point of football is to score more goals than the other team, to then win the match, to then gain points, to then be promoted. Thats the WHOLE point of playing the match.

I couldn't watch a game if, ultimately, you couldn't achieve the whole point of the match itself.

You'd score a goal and just think 'oh, well that's nice'

I kind of agree, it destroys the entire point of English football, to be the best.
The majority of professional football clubs in this country are in the lower leagues, I don't think the FA should allow a vote unless it includes the chairmen of every single professional club in England and Wales. Then again do the fa have any say in what the PL do these days?
 




Tooting Gull

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Jul 5, 2003
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Of course he'd vote for it - he runs a business and his business model is hugely enhanced by being in he prem. Doesn't mean it's in any way right though.

Are you saying if we scraped in, you'd expect Tony Bloom to vote for no relegation if the vote came up (which it will at some point)? I wouldn't, and I would like to think a lot of Albion fans would make that clear to the club before any vote.

But listen, I could be wrong, we live in a largely self-interested world and maybe that would come out on top.
 


leigull

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Sep 26, 2010
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I honestly mean this. If this ever happened I would stop watching The Albion.

The whole point of football is to score more goals than the other team, to then win the match, to then gain points, to then be promoted. Thats the WHOLE point of playing the match.

I couldn't watch a game if, ultimately, you couldn't achieve the whole point of the match itself.

You'd score a goal and just think 'oh, well that's nice'

Agreed. Football is about dreaming about a rise to the top and the journey to get there. If that possibility was removed it would lose all charm and romance. I wouldn't spend money on going to watch it anymore. Same as if the rule came in if Brighton were ever in the Premiership. With no chance of relegation the magic and excitement would be lost and would have no desire to go and watch anymore.
 


SULLY COULDNT SHOOT

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Sep 28, 2004
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Izmir, Southern Turkey
I would certainly lose interest in football if promotion was abolished

BUT

if I was the guy I would say the same thin because its logical to him... he's a businessman... though I might say it though I woudlnt vote for it because I think in the long run it would destroy the industry.
 




brightn'ove

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Apr 12, 2011
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London
If it did happen the PL would just go the same way as the SPL, two good teams with massive investment followed by a shower of absolute shite occupying the 18 other places. Who would invest in a lower premier league team if there is no risk of relegation but you have no chance of achieving anything whatsoever.
 


Brian Fantana

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Oct 8, 2006
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In the field
I honestly mean this. If this ever happened I would stop watching The Albion.

The whole point of football is to score more goals than the other team, to then win the match, to then gain points, to then be promoted. Thats the WHOLE point of playing the match.

I couldn't watch a game if, ultimately, you couldn't achieve the whole point of the match itself.

You'd score a goal and just think 'oh, well that's nice'

Couldn't agree more.
 






hans kraay fan club

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Mar 16, 2005
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If it did happen the PL would just go the same way as the SPL, two good teams with massive investment followed by a shower of absolute shite occupying the 18 other places. Who would invest in a lower premier league team if there is no risk of relegation but you have no chance of achieving anything whatsoever.

It would be worse than that. Wigan, Bolton and the likes, would be playing in completely empty stadiums, as there would literally be nothing for them to play for, and no real POINT to any of their matches.
 


Brian Fantana

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Oct 8, 2006
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In the field
Very much disagree, the whole structure would become untenable if there was no relegation.

I agree. Without the inherent risk of relegation to temper certain financial decisions, there is a great risk that clubs at the lower end of the table would put themselves in even greater problems.
 


Waynflete

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Nov 10, 2009
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Before we get all over-excited, are we sure this wasn't just a throwaway comment from a representative of a club threatened by relegation? I'd be very surprised if QPR's official position was for no relegation, with the assumption they'd be automatically in the top-tier. Sounds to me like an off-hand/tongue-in-cheek response to a leading question.

Gartside and Bolton, though, is a different matter. He's actively proposed a system for no relegation and pushed it to the Premier League chairmen's group. Which is why I've been hoping for several years that Bolton will be relegated.
 


Rugrat

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Mar 13, 2011
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I honestly mean this. If this ever happened I would stop watching The Albion.

The whole point of football is to score more goals than the other team, to then win the match, to then gain points, to then be promoted. Thats the WHOLE point of playing the match.

I couldn't watch a game if, ultimately, you couldn't achieve the whole point of the match itself.

You'd score a goal and just think 'oh, well that's nice'

Never say never ... unfortunately this is a hugely commercial business and even the very top clubs have massive financial and shareholder pressure on them. I honestly believe that if they thought they could (not QPR but the established clubs) pull it off then they would. Hopefully it won't be happening any time soon but fast forward 15 or 20 years and something along these lines could be a reality ... or some sort of European Super League may be more realistic, but still the ultimate prize would be taken away.

Money talks in this game, no room for sentimentality ... I friggin hate that aspect but it's a fact
 




Tooting Gull

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Jul 5, 2003
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Before we get all over-excited, are we sure this wasn't just a throwaway comment from a representative of a club threatened by relegation? I'd be very surprised if QPR's official position was for no relegation, with the assumption they'd be automatically in the top-tier. Sounds to me like an off-hand/tongue-in-cheek response to a leading question.

Gartside and Bolton, though, is a different matter. He's actively proposed a system for no relegation and pushed it to the Premier League chairmen's group. Which is why I've been hoping for several years that Bolton will be relegated.

You could well be right there, and I think he qualified things slightly by admitting this would be very difficult, even unlikely in England.

But he still said it - and if you were against the idea in principle, you wouldn't say it. And you are QPR, FFS.
 


Waynflete

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Nov 10, 2009
1,105
You could well be right there, and I think he qualified things slightly by admitting this would be very difficult, even unlikely in England.

But he still said it - and if you were against the idea in principle, you wouldn't say it. And you are QPR, FFS.

Yeah I agree with you there.
 


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