pb21
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I thought the problem wasn't fighting relegation, due to not having top 10 players, but getting relegated due to Potter and poor defending
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[Albion] Propper
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I thought the problem wasn't fighting relegation, due to not having top 10 players, but getting relegated due to Potter and poor defending
METALMICKY
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Can't disagree with much of that. However, the niggling thought is just maybe the way we are playing Propper is not getting the best out of him. But that does mean we have to commit to working that out as we can't just carry him on a ' he might just perform ' basis.
Gross has faded badly and Mooy looks a little heavy and even I could run quicker.
Biss and Alzate is indeed a very exciting central midfield partnership.
I'm not sure I'd trust them both together from the outset.
I'd certainly trust them enough to offload either Stephens or Propper, for me the fall guy is Stephens despite Propper returning from lockdown somewhat off the pace.
albionalex
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I agree but there is still improvement to be made. Propper got a lot of flack in this thread for turning the ball over twice this season, last night Bissouma turned it over on the edge of our box a lot and gave away a dangerous free kick.
I think our midfield is where need need to strengthen, but also think that this season has been wildly disrupted.
Alzate looked very good but has had the injury to deal with,
Bissouma has improved a lot but lacks any end product,
Propper was playing very well pre-lockdown and has returned poorly,
Gross started well but has faded,
Mooy was superb until January but has been generally woeful since the return,
Stephens has continued to do his job well but is getting further from the required standard.
Alzate looked very good but has had the injury to deal with,
Bissouma has improved a lot but lacks any end product,
Propper was playing very well pre-lockdown and has returned poorly,
Gross started well but has faded,
Mooy was superb until January but has been generally woeful since the return,
Stephens has continued to do his job well but is getting further from the required standard.
sydney
tinky ****in winky
i can't help but read this in a scottish accent ...by your reckoning our midfield is completely ****ed ...
Not Andy Naylor
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Of course there's also the option of playing Ben White as a holding midfield player next season. Apparently he has excelled there for Leeds when asked.
i can't help but read this in a scottish accent ...by your reckoning our midfield is completely ****ed ...
No not at all (although I get why it could be read that way), just wildly inconsistent. I think the massive run of games hasn't helped because we chop and change every time and haven't been able to give anyone a proper tilt at becoming consistent in midfield.
With almost all of the players above, we've seen how good they can be, so I'm hoping a full pre-season will straighten out the kinks and force some more consistency back into each of them.
SeagullinExile
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In your opinion.
OMG I decide I'm not going to mention Propper anymore then we get comments like this.
He turned the ball over 3 times in 5 minutes alone against Man City that nearly ended up in us being 4-0 down instead of 1-0.
There is a valid reason he's been getting criticism lately.
That there is, quite how that instantly becomes 'not good enough' 'get rid' is beyond me, as usual.
albionalex
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The majority of the flack he was getting was based on the mistake against Liverpool. Don't get me wrong, he had a stinker against City. But as I mentioned, Bissouma also turned the ball over 3 times in 5 minutes yet is heralded as our best midfielder.
Does anyone have a hint, whiff or clue as to a midfielder with a brain and the skill . . . Thats as quick or a bit quicker than DP on the market?
Or Gross for that matter . . . . .
Happy to see any improvement in our squad . . .don't know the budget . . . . Asking for a friend. Obvs . . . We're playingcanasta tomorrow, I'll slip it into the bantz innit!
Or Gross for that matter . . . . .
Happy to see any improvement in our squad . . .don't know the budget . . . . Asking for a friend. Obvs . . . We're playingcanasta tomorrow, I'll slip it into the bantz innit!
That's not a good thing . Cant change everything at once, need to be a real fan and appreciate change takes time !
Oh not another one [emoji2357]
Because someone doesn’t rate a player they’re “not a real fan”? Absolute nonsense.
We're operating on a tiny budget compared to the big clubs, we've got no chance of signing standout midfielders. I'm not sure why we play Davy as a holding mid when he's done so well for his national team as an attacking one but hey ho.He's played 33/36 games this season for us and we're staying up so he must be doing something right. His strike v Wolves @ home springs to mind.
Hell I'd take signing David Brooks over the summer as a real coup for us where we are now. TB's approach of signing youth prospects/unknowns is risky, but you do unearth the occasional Lamptey with it!
FWIW I honestly don't think anyone who wants Propper out knows the slightest thing about football.
He's one of the most complete midfielders to wear a Brighton shirt ever. Playing a reserved role rather than getting forward but as has been mentioned before he can certainly play as a CAM as he has done for Holland. We're lucky he's great at both.
He played for Holland when I was in Amsterdam about 6 months ago and the Dutch greats were eulogising about his performance after that game but perhaps the self-styled NSC cognoscenti know more about football that Rijkaard, Koeman et al...
For the record I do agree he's been off the pace since lockdown. But form is temporary and class is permanent. He'll be back.
The question to ask is this. If we booted him out who do we replace him with ? A more complete midfielder will cost north of £35 mill. I actually can't think of anyone less than a superstar I'd replace him with.
He's one of the most complete midfielders to wear a Brighton shirt ever. Playing a reserved role rather than getting forward but as has been mentioned before he can certainly play as a CAM as he has done for Holland. We're lucky he's great at both.
He played for Holland when I was in Amsterdam about 6 months ago and the Dutch greats were eulogising about his performance after that game but perhaps the self-styled NSC cognoscenti know more about football that Rijkaard, Koeman et al...
For the record I do agree he's been off the pace since lockdown. But form is temporary and class is permanent. He'll be back.
The question to ask is this. If we booted him out who do we replace him with ? A more complete midfielder will cost north of £35 mill. I actually can't think of anyone less than a superstar I'd replace him with.