Prison Overcrowding

[moggy]

with prisons reaching bursting point and certain prisons not reaching standards of basic hygiene like pentonville in london, maybe now is a good time for government to look into alternatives.
its widely thought that it costs more than £300 per day to house an inmate so what other options are there.

bring back the death penalty?
(maybe a good idea for murderers and paeodophiles)

building new prisons
(maybe on islands within uk waters)

farm the lesser criminals back into society with punishments such as community service

 

[dougdeep]

Make them visit Withdean on a wet evening?

 

[Gully]

Having visited a prison earlier this year and witnessed the conditions I am not sure that it is the right solution to all of societies ills. There are clearly people who must be sent to prison for the safety of society, to protect the majority from a repeat offence, who would argue that the man who committed the murders in Soham should be imprisoned for life. I would however argue that those who are persistent offenders, say burglers, should also be in prison which is after all aiming to rehabilitate them.

Perhaps we should look at what actually happens in prison and that is where the major reform should come, if more emphasis were placed on providing education and training, thereby trying to reduce the rates of reoffending, maybe that would have some effect. Maybe the government should go one step further back and get rid off their promise to be tough on the causes of crime and actually address the situations that produce criminals, addressing poverty might be a good start.

As for reducing numbers, community service orders and tagging are a good way to reduce the lengths of sentances or to stop people from entering prison in the first place, but they must be enforced. Some prisions are actually seen as academies of crime so this approach may reduce the likelyhood of a petty thief learning additional skills that can make him a far greater risk to society.

 

[algie]

with prisons reaching bursting point and certain prisons not reaching standards of basic hygiene like pentonville in london, maybe now is a good time for government to look into alternatives.
its widely thought that it costs more than £300 per day to house an inmate so what other options are there.

bring back the death penalty?
(maybe a good idea for murderers and paeodophiles)

building new prisons
(maybe on islands within uk waters)

farm the lesser criminals back into society with punishments such as community service

Simple solution.Longer sentences.I did this a while back.Soft Labour don't dish out tough sentences.Life should mean life.Rape you should get 15 years,dangerous drivers who kill should be done for murder etc etc.Bring back hanging for people like Huntley.Make prisons tough and not holiday camps.Scrap the human rights act.No more imigrants etc as ten thousand out of 80000 are already banged up.Deport any imigrant who comits a serious crime after they have completed there sentence.Thats what this country needs.Labour are suppose to be tough on crime.Where's the bobby on the beat and traffic cops?

 

[algie]

Having visited a prison earlier this year and witnessed the conditions I am not sure that it is the right solution to all of societies ills. There are clearly people who must be sent to prison for the safety of society, to protect the majority from a repeat offence, who would argue that the man who committed the murders in Soham should be imprisoned for life. I would however argue that those who are persistent offenders, say burglers, should also be in prison which is after all aiming to rehabilitate them.

Perhaps we should look at what actually happens in prison and that is where the major reform should come, if more emphasis were placed on providing education and training, thereby trying to reduce the rates of reoffending, maybe that would have some effect. Maybe the government should go one step further back and get rid off their promise to be tough on the causes of crime and actually address the situations that produce criminals, addressing poverty might be a good start.

As for reducing numbers, community service orders and tagging are a good way to reduce the lengths of sentances or to stop people from entering prison in the first place, but they must be enforced. Some prisions are actually seen as academies of crime so this approach may reduce the likelyhood of a petty thief learning additional skills that can make him a far greater risk to society.

The perfect case of the Labours soft approach

 

[Norman Baker suck my lozenge]

start hanging drug dealers and nonces,problem solved overnight.

 

[B.M.F]

Sod Community Service. Make the little fuckers do Military service instead. A year or so on the front line in Afghanistan or Iraq will make a lot of them think twice before they do it again.

 

[Billy the Fish]

Send them to Austrailia

 

[algie]

Sod Community Service. Make the little fuckers do Military service instead. A year or so on the front line in Afghanistan or Iraq will make a lot of them think twice before they do it again.

I'm in favor of bringing back national service and i like the sound of boot camps as well

 

[Gully]

Sorry, but capital punishment is not the solution, look at countries that still have it, they are proof that it is not an effective deterrant. Besides, do you have sufficient faith in our legal system that it can correctly sentance on every occasion, it has flaws and we should not be prepared to accept the risk of killing innocent people.

 

[algie]

Sorry, but capital punishment is not the solution, look at countries that still have it, they are proof that it is not an effective deterrant. Besides, do you have sufficient faith in our legal system that it can correctly sentance on every occasion, it has flaws and we should not be prepared to accept the risk of killing innocent people.

There's a little thing called DNA

 

[Gully]

National Service is definitely not the answer, the Army is a professional volunteer organisation, filling it up with what may be considered the dregs of society will dilute its skills base and reduce its efficiency.

 

[Norman Baker suck my lozenge]

Sorry, but capital punishment is not the solution, look at countries that still have it, they are proof that it is not an effective deterrant. Besides, do you have sufficient faith in our legal system that it can correctly sentance on every occasion, it has flaws and we should not be prepared to accept the risk of killing innocent people.

Cuts down on repeat offenders though,thus clearing the jails of vermin.

 

[algie]

National Service is definitely not the answer, the Army is a professional volunteer organisation, filling it up with what may be considered the dregs of society will dilute its skills base and reduce its efficiency.

But the dregs will know how tough it is.They fail that then they are subject to militry prisons which could be funded by the goverment and run by ex army personel.ID cards would solve alot of crimes.money and time.You can't rehab child killers.They are beyond help and are not worth having on this earth.Tagging is a perfect get out clause and com-service as well

 

[Gully]

Time has changed, as has the nature of war-fighting. The days when numbers counted and many thousands answered the call of their country to die on the battlefields of the Somme and the beaches of Northern France are behind us. These days it is about quality and not quantity, we have the best trained army in the World, no need to dilute that with people who would far rather be elsewhere or who might bring their disruptive influence with them.

 

[algie]

Time has changed, as has the nature of war-fighting. The days when numbers counted and many thousands answered the call of their country to die on the battlefields of the Somme and the beaches of Northern France are behind us. These days it is about quality and not quantity, we have the best trained army in the World, no need to dilute that with people who would far rather be elsewhere or who might bring their disruptive influence with them.

Please please don't bring up past wars.Your more then welcome to meet some of my ex squaddie mates who are sick and tired of the way this country is being run.What did they fight for?This country is a complete mess and Labour have ruined it.Tell me Gully,why are more Brits leaving this country then ever before?

 

[algie]

Gully?are you a betting man?

 

[fatbadger]

Send less people to prison; work towards closing as many as possible, or at least reducing their size. Community Service Orders are the obvious solution for many. There are also too many 'crimes' for which one can be sent to prison - locking drug users up is just idiotic and a complete waste of resources.

The death penalty, as is obvious to anyone with a brain and any sense of humanity, is even more idiotic than locking up drug users - especially, as some of you think it should be, if it is used for crimes other than murder. Now, if you wanted murder to become much more common, that is the way to go about it.

 

[Juan Albion]

I suggest 10 years hard Labour for anyone who doesn't put the spaces in after each full stop.

 

[Ccider]

Send them to Austrailia