Pre-seaon training in November. FFS what is Pricky doing?

[Mr Burns]

WHAT THE f*** IS GOING ON!
WHAT THE f*** IS, WHAT THE f*** IS,
WHAT THE f*** IS GOING ON!!

Other sides do all the hard running and core fitness training pre-season, and by the end of November should still have high fitness levels.

But then we have a weak manager who has let the players get away with murder, and because of that find ourseleves in a genuine shit state.

No wonder the player like working under Pricky Adams, rather than Dean Wilkins.

Dean WIlkins worked them hard, we finished 7th. Players moaned in the papers they didn't like his style. Pricky Adams has let them have fun and enjoy themseleves in training, we are 19th in the league, heading in one direction and having a pre-season type fitness reigime in November.... but don't worry the players are happy.

Time for a change Mr Knight. Oh wait, I forgot, we are already paying for two managers, no way we can stretch that to a third, although we could get rid of this one for gross incompetience or impersonating a manager, and hope Dean gets a full time job, so we can spend his wages on a coach.

Ever wondered why he aint employed a 1st team coach yet?

We're in a shit league position, stuck with a shit manager, and shit coaching staff.

A clear out in January? All well and good getting rid of the crap, but who the fucks gonna want to join this circus?

 

[BensGrandad]

Another ridiculous thread started by somebody who doesnt know what they are talking about.

If you speak to any of the players they will tell you that the reason the senior players didnt like Wilkins was because he was only interested in the youngsters and the youngsters used to take the piss out of him. If Adams says jump they ask how high if Wilkins said it the youn players would ask why should we have to jump. In other words nobody had any respect for Wilkins.

As one senior player told me when Wilkins was there it was like a joke kindergarten now it is back to being run like a professional football club and soon the results will show this, once MA has sorted it out.

 

[Couldn't Be Hyypia]

Great insight there BensGrandad. Haven't heard the case put like that before.

 

[Barrel of Fun]

Well, let's hope it has an effect. We do not have a game for a while and it is important to stay(?) sharp. I've always thought it were important to wait to criticise a managerial decision, such as this one, after we have seen some sort of effect.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

As one senior player told me when Wilkins was there it was like a joke kindergarten now it is back to being run like a professional football club and soon the results will show this, once MA has sorted it out.

A crap football club.

By chance was it the same senior player that told you the stuff about the youth players? Could it be the senior pro was annoyed that kids had been picked ahead of him?

 

[chimneys]

If Adams says jump they ask how high....

As one senior player told me when Wilkins was there it was like a joke kindergarten now it is back to being run like a professional football club and soon the results will show this, once MA has sorted it out.

So why doesnt Mickey tell them to play well, as telling them to jump is clearly not working!

Being run like a professional football club?! Have you seen any of our last 15 league games (second half of Leicester and Millwall aside!).

 

[Guy Fawkes]

So Mr Burns, exactly how many full training sessions have you actually watched at the club recently? - none i'd bet

You are jumping to conclusions about exactly what happens in their training, clubs do have, as a part of training during the season, running sessions, they also have other parts of training where they work on the more technical elements too

When I worked in Brighton, I would often see the players out running near Stanmer park, and not just during pre-season, so were all the other managers wrong too?

If you seriously think that a single 90 minute game once a week, which some fringe players might not play the full match or may not even play in is enough to keep a professional footballer fully match fit and keep their stamina levels high, then you are a deluded fool.

Stop this pathetic moaning about anything and nothing, why does it seriously matter to you that the players were seen out running as a part of normal training anyway? why do you view this as a bad thing, warranting a thread to complain about it? - stop moaning and start suopporting the team and players

 

[Taybha]

Bring the god that is Sir Guy Of Butters back ! ease our pain, if we build it he will come

 

[The Large One]

Another ridiculous thread started by somebody who doesnt know what they are talking about.

If you speak to any of the players they will tell you that the reason the senior players didnt like Wilkins was because he was only interested in the youngsters and the youngsters used to take the piss out of him. If Adams says jump they ask how high if Wilkins said it the youn players would ask why should we have to jump. In other words nobody had any respect for Wilkins.

As one senior player told me when Wilkins was there it was like a joke kindergarten now it is back to being run like a professional football club and soon the results will show this, once MA has sorted it out.

Break open the valium - a BG post I agree 100% with.

I heard exactly the same, but I'll see your one senior pro, and raise it to FOUR senior pros saying the same thing, three of whom are still at the club.

 

[Mr Burns]

Another ridiculous thread started by somebody who doesnt know what they are talking about.

If you speak to any of the players they will tell you that the reason the senior players didnt like Wilkins was because he was only interested in the youngsters and the youngsters used to take the piss out of him. If Adams says jump they ask how high if Wilkins said it the youn players would ask why should we have to jump. In other words nobody had any respect for Wilkins.

As one senior player told me when Wilkins was there it was like a joke kindergarten now it is back to being run like a professional football club and soon the results will show this, once MA has sorted it out.

That sound great, but the results speak for themseleves.

Whilst I started this thread, on the basis of hearsay, and I don't think I'm a million miles out, I know a number of staff and players at the club, and would say that whilst your views are well point, I don't totally agree with them.

Adam will not sort this out. Even Adam Must Play Anywhere Virgo, as stated trainings become easy under him, and that he's going to get tough now!

If someone said that under Wilkins management, everyone would have gone mad.

Off course the in joke was that it was like a Kindergarten with so many young players there, any club that had a crop of youngsters coming through like we had would think the same.

Wilkins saw the youngsters as the future of the club, and this put a lot of nose out of joint amongst the senior players. They felt under threat, and this is probably why so many had so much to say about Wilkins.

But results speaks for themselves. Were were 7th and heading up, and if it wasn't for the mess Uncle Dick made of the transfer window, we would probably have made the play offs at least.

Now under Adams we are 19, and heading downwards, and the way things are going, can you honestly hand on heart see him getting us out of this mess. He's never managed to do it at a club since he left us, and I think, not to be dramatic, we are heading down.

 

[Mr Burns]

So Mr Burns, exactly how many full training sessions have you actually watched at the club recently? - none i'd bet

You are jumping to conclusions about exactly what happens in their training, clubs do have, as a part of training during the season, running sessions, they also have other parts of training where they work on the more technical elements too

When I worked in Brighton, I would often see the players out running near Stanmer park, and not just during pre-season, so were all the other managers wrong too?

If you seriously think that a single 90 minute game once a week, which some fringe players might not play the full match or may not even play in is enough to keep a professional footballer fully match fit and keep their stamina levels high, then you are a deluded fool.

Stop this pathetic moaning about anything and nothing, why does it seriously matter to you that the players were seen out running as a part of normal training anyway? why do you view this as a bad thing, warranting a thread to complain about it? - stop moaning and start suopporting the team and players

None.

But I've been around long enough to know what the training consists of.

Off course theres a lot of running, but I don't like hearing this "pre-season hard running" being banded around, by the press and players alike.

Fitness work is part of the course of being a footballer, and give me a bit more credit than to say it happens throughtout the season. Off course is f***ing does:thud:

It worries me that Virgo says Adams is getting tough again.

Well to be honest I would have liked him to be tough when we were top of the table and kept us there, not when we are in free fall and starting relagation in the face.

So whilst thank you for pointing out the bleeding obvious that players train throughtout the season, I'll point out the bleeding obvious that when a senior player like Virgo said what he said in the paper, something is seriously f***ing wrong in the way the club is run.

Dunno about you, but I'd rather have a squad of players not totally happy with the manager, and finish 7th, then a sqaud of players that go to work, laugh and joke and seemingly love their manager and get relagated.

Call me old fashion, but I dont give a f*** if the players are happy during the week or not. If they win games they'll be happy enough, but as were in free fall and losing every game, no matter how easy or "fun" training is the players aint gonna be happy.

The difference is when your winning, hard running comes with the terrority. When your losing and you go through what is being described as a "Mini Pre Season" your confidence is not likely to raise, and if anything you just get totally pissed off as its a punishment, and no one like to be punished.

Adams has dug himself a big hole here, not one I'm sure he capable of climbing out off, but anyway thanks again for pointing out players run and do fitness traingin thoughtout the season!!:thud::

 

[Mr Burns]

Well, let's hope it has an effect. We do not have a game for a while and it is important to stay(?) sharp. I've always thought it were important to wait to criticise a managerial decision, such as this one, after we have seen some sort of effect.

But we've been seeing the effect of Adams' training thoughtout the season. Anyone manager who needs to get tough and have a "mini pre-season" in November, has obviously let something slip.

 

[Kosh]

hmmmmmmmm and you have the audacity to have a go at my sex life! Get f***ed bursney, and soon for all our sakes.

And please, please stop SHOUTING you ignorant tosser.

Actually it may be best to simply just stop.

I love your three page essay responses to every posters critisim, you really believe your spout of shite is worth reading don't you?

I'm guessing you're actually a trainee accountant then? My mistake, sorry.

Kosh

 

[Mr Burns]

hmmmmmmmm and you have the audacity to have a go at my sex life! Get f***ed bursney, and soon for all our sakes.

And please, please stop SHOUTING you ignorant tosser.

Actually it may be best to simply just stop.

I love your three page essay responses to every posters critisim, you really believe your spout of shite is worth reading don't you?

I'm guessing you're actually a trainee accountant then? My mistake, sorry.

Kosh

I dont have to own you again do I? It was to easy last time, before you run of crying.

If my posts aint worth reading, then what the f*** are you doing responding to them?

Your wrong in your guess. I aint an accountant, don't get paid enough.

I'd guess your a poof who loves dishing out verbal shit to people but can't take it back. Oh wait, thats not a guess you told us that yourself last time and you've already brought your sex life into it again.

If you fancy me just say so:safeway2:

 

[SNOOBS]

Burns we have a 10 day break. If the players (who haven't looked at their fittest all season tbh) spend their time just doing technical/tactical stuff they will not be able to compete with Oldham. I'm sure if we had a game today they would not have been out running to such an extent.

Think about it you moron.

 

[Mr Burns]

Burns we have a 10 day break. If the players (who haven't looked at their fittest all season tbh) spend their time just doing technical/tactical stuff they will not be able to compete with Oldham. I'm sure if we had a game today they would not have been out running to such an extent.

Think about it you moron.

Senisble post until you had to throw in the moron bit.

As I've said before, off course no team would spend 10 days doing techinical stuff, and fitness/running is part of EVERY DAY training for a pro footballer.

But you said it yourself the players haven't looked at their fittest all season, and thats the point!!

It's to late to be doing the hardcore fitness training in November, that should stop before the season starts, and before everyone keeps going on about fitness training is needed thoughtout the season, I KNOW, just not this extreme hard pre-season type stuff that is being quoted by senior players. We should be pecking with our fitness now. Any time doing this sort of training in November are in the shit. Oh wait, we are!

 

[Nemesis]

None.

But I've been around long enough to know what the training consists of.

If you've never been to watch a training session how do you know exactly what the training consists of? Being around long enough is not the right answer-I've been around long enough too, I've never been to a training session either so, like you, I have no idea what goes on when professional footballers train. 'Being around long enough' qualifies you for f*** all in a chosen field that you know nothing about.

 

[Mr Burns]

If you've never been to watch a training session how do you know exactly what the training consists of? Being around long enough is not the right answer-I've been around long enough too, I've never been to a training session either so, like you, I have no idea what goes on when professional footballers train. 'Being around long enough' qualifies you for f*** all in a chosen field that you know nothing about.

As I've said above, I hold my hands up, and am going on the quotes from players on this one, on what training they are doing now.

I've not been to see a Micky Adams session, but I certainly knew what went on for many years before that as I do know something about training sessions

 

[Kosh]

What you're anti gay now too?

You just get better with every post.

You sir are a blow hard, a bigot and a fool.

You constant landslide of criticism towards the Albion in general is simply laughable, you claim to be a fan and yet all you do is spout absolute shit. Not only full of assumptions and second guesses, but written in a way that suggests you walk with a stoop, knuckles barely above the ground.

Secondly your quest for attention by being negative re: the Albion is hardly original nor intelligent, you should stick to your boring follow up posts in other peoples marginally more interesting threads.

You're obviously nothing more than another angry young man, incapable of letting off steam except on a message populated by geeks, fools and akin to yourself: people with apparent mental issues, particularly in relation to your obvious and I feel potentially violent temper.

You always take the bait... "Burnsey."

I also like the way you refer you yourself in the third person... Interesting that... Clearly you’re hiding something, perhaps it's just your total lack of ability to formulate a sound or at least coherent argument based on fact not fiction, and one that actually supports your pathetic claim to be an Albion fan.

You are a prime example of the worst kind of modern day over analytical fan I have ever had the displeasure of knowing.

Crawl back into your hole now while there do me a favour, muse upon this: if you should post herein again make sure you actually have a valid point and your responses actually make sense, as your last showed your temperamental weakness to the fore... did it not, Burnsey?

Almost akin to length one of your… “oh I think I went over board but now can reason out my argument using witty nick names like errmmmm Dean Shite or Wacky Adams... oh yes here me roar... Pathetic.

I bet Micky Adams would think you’re a total prick too, if he ever had the displeasure, and I take great comfort in that as he’s twice nay three times the man you’re ever likely to be.

Kosh

 

[Kosh]

You've wasted 1169ish words reiterating the same moronic and tired point over and over within this thread.

So I'm entitle to a few more methinks... or should that be you?

"Oops she hadn't finished. My mistake. Obviously getting to ya.

f***ing hell, don't you on. You’re like some old bird. Don't like the heat, stay out of the kitchen"

Your own words (albeit with the numerous, spelling errors removed)... Burnsey, now that is ironic.

Bandy, come on bandy with me.

Own me, please own me, come on footballing genius, surely you're not finished? as you don't own (sigh) me yet...

Kosh