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[Albion] PPV scrapped



dangull

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Feb 24, 2013
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I think its more a case that streaming for free is more of an attractive option and profits are not what they were hoping for.
 






RM-Taylor

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Jan 7, 2006
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But will they be shown free or not at all?


Free to all?

Or free to existing subscribers?

Not if it's free to view as per the last lockdown.

There are no free to air games, they will be shown on SkySports or BT Sports, Amazon may pick up an extra few fixtures also. But these are all included with current subscriptions. They are not doing any free to air games on Pick TV or Sky Sports Mix this season
 


Wozza

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There are no free to air games, they will be shown on SkySports or BT Sports, Amazon may pick up an extra few fixtures also. But these are all included with current subscriptions. They are not doing any free to air games on Pick TV or Sky Sports Mix this season

Source?
 






RM-Taylor

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The link which you posted earlier on. It states will be what happened at the start of this season, there’s not been any free to air view games shown this season, they’ve all been on Sky Sports, BT or Amazon.
 


Pondicherry

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May 25, 2007
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Barber's job is to look after the finances of Brighton and Hove Albion.
With no matchday revenue, reduced TV income and Season ticket refunds to be given back, what else was he supposed to do?

Football clubs and Mr Barber can't have its both ways. Clubs can't claim to be part of the community, and then when the community is in trouble (Covid) seek to exploit that same community with insane PPV pricing.

Football clubs are businesses but they are not normal business. Their primary aim in most cases is not to make the biggest profit possible. As we all know, there is plenty of money in football, its the way its distributed that is the problem. The PPV folly, big clubs trying to jump on the furlough scheme, the big 6 recent power grab, agent fees, transfer fees and player wages are all examples of where football is getting it wrong and despite the current wider crisis, there seems to be very little public evidence of Mr Barber and his fellow CEO / Chairmen wanting to address any of the fundamental problems at the heart of football.

The initial PPV vote was evidence I think of a detachment from reality. Reality only hit home when they saw the viewing figures.
 


osgood

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Apr 17, 2011
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Football clubs and Mr Barber can't have its both ways. Clubs can't claim to be part of the community, and then when the community is in trouble (Covid) seek to exploit that same community with insane PPV pricing.

Football clubs are businesses but they are not normal business. Their primary aim in most cases is not to make the biggest profit possible. As we all know, there is plenty of money in football, its the way its distributed that is the problem. The PPV folly, big clubs trying to jump on the furlough scheme, the big 6 recent power grab, agent fees, transfer fees and player wages are all examples of where football is getting it wrong and despite the current wider crisis, there seems to be very little public evidence of Mr Barber and his fellow CEO / Chairmen wanting to address any of the fundamental problems at the heart of football.

The initial PPV vote was evidence I think of a detachment from reality. Reality only hit home when they saw the viewing figures.

Yes , Some simply want to follow the NFL business model

Hot Dog Anyone ?
 




drew

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Football clubs and Mr Barber can't have its both ways. Clubs can't claim to be part of the community, and then when the community is in trouble (Covid) seek to exploit that same community with insane PPV pricing.

Football clubs are businesses but they are not normal business. Their primary aim in most cases is not to make the biggest profit possible. As we all know, there is plenty of money in football, its the way its distributed that is the problem. The PPV folly, big clubs trying to jump on the furlough scheme, the big 6 recent power grab, agent fees, transfer fees and player wages are all examples of where football is getting it wrong and despite the current wider crisis, there seems to be very little public evidence of Mr Barber and his fellow CEO / Chairmen wanting to address any of the fundamental problems at the heart of football.

The initial PPV vote was evidence I think of a detachment from reality. Reality only hit home when they saw the viewing figures.

Do you know what the viewing figures were?
 


Wozza

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The link which you posted earlier on. It states will be what happened at the start of this season, there’s not been any free to air view games shown this season, they’ve all been on Sky Sports, BT or Amazon.

Leicester City v Burnley was on BBC. I recall our Newcastle match changing?

No-one knows how the games will be split between broadcasters - or if the arrangement will extend through the busy Dec/Jan period. Let's see...
 


vagabond

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May 17, 2019
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Football clubs and Mr Barber can't have its both ways. Clubs can't claim to be part of the community, and then when the community is in trouble (Covid) seek to exploit that same community with insane PPV pricing.

Football clubs are businesses but they are not normal business. Their primary aim in most cases is not to make the biggest profit possible. As we all know, there is plenty of money in football, its the way its distributed that is the problem. The PPV folly, big clubs trying to jump on the furlough scheme, the big 6 recent power grab, agent fees, transfer fees and player wages are all examples of where football is getting it wrong and despite the current wider crisis, there seems to be very little public evidence of Mr Barber and his fellow CEO / Chairmen wanting to address any of the fundamental problems at the heart of football.

The initial PPV vote was evidence I think of a detachment from reality. Reality only hit home when they saw the viewing figures.

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Well said.

Clubs are more than happy to pay millions to agents and various other leeches in the game, but are all too quick to try and milk fans loyalty for extra £££ when it suits them.
 




Uh_huh_him

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Sep 28, 2011
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Football clubs and Mr Barber can't have its both ways. Clubs can't claim to be part of the community, and then when the community is in trouble (Covid) seek to exploit that same community with insane PPV pricing.

Football clubs are businesses but they are not normal business. Their primary aim in most cases is not to make the biggest profit possible. As we all know, there is plenty of money in football, its the way its distributed that is the problem. The PPV folly, big clubs trying to jump on the furlough scheme, the big 6 recent power grab, agent fees, transfer fees and player wages are all examples of where football is getting it wrong and despite the current wider crisis, there seems to be very little public evidence of Mr Barber and his fellow CEO / Chairmen wanting to address any of the fundamental problems at the heart of football.

The initial PPV vote was evidence I think of a detachment from reality. Reality only hit home when they saw the viewing figures.

The idea that PPV is exploiting the football fan is a load of old tosh!
These are games which would not have been broadcast, for which there is a market.
They have got their pricing wrong, and it has backfired.
But no-one was ever being exploited.

Sky and their subscribers stand a chance of getting something for nothing out of this and the clubs are footing the bill for it.
Not sure how this is helping the problems at the heart of football.
 


RM-Taylor

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Leicester City v Burnley was on BBC. I recall our Newcastle match changing?

No-one knows how the games will be split between broadcasters - or if the arrangement will extend through the busy Dec/Jan period. Let's see...

The original press release in September mentioned Pick TV but this was quickly edited and changed. There hasn’t been any games on that channel. Completely forgot about the Leicester game on BBC so hands up and apologies for that, but if the BBC did get a handful of free to air games they will be of similar ilk to that fixture, eg West Brom v Sheff Utd or Wolves v Burnley.
 


Uh_huh_him

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Sep 28, 2011
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If more people paid £14.95 as you did - and repeatedly advocated on NSC - we wouldn't be getting free Premier League football over coming weeks and months.

But thanks anyway!

We aren't. You may well be.

But we definitely aren't.
 




drew

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If more people paid £14.95 as you did - and repeatedly advocated on NSC - we wouldn't be getting free Premier League football over coming weeks and months.

But thanks anyway!

So, as someone once said, some people want everything for free!!!!

If nobody paid sky or BT subscriptions then the players wouldn't earn so much etc etc, there'd be less money in the game, we'd probably be playing in a shit stadium with the quality of overseas players that have graced the Amex. The amount of people that moan about players wages but subscribe is a joke.

If people think £14.95 is too much then I assume they have given up their season tickets at that's considerably more!
 


Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
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Football clubs and Mr Barber can't have its both ways. Clubs can't claim to be part of the community, and then when the community is in trouble (Covid) seek to exploit that same community with insane PPV pricing.

Football clubs are businesses but they are not normal business. Their primary aim in most cases is not to make the biggest profit possible. As we all know, there is plenty of money in football, its the way its distributed that is the problem. The PPV folly, big clubs trying to jump on the furlough scheme, the big 6 recent power grab, agent fees, transfer fees and player wages are all examples of where football is getting it wrong and despite the current wider crisis, there seems to be very little public evidence of Mr Barber and his fellow CEO / Chairmen wanting to address any of the fundamental problems at the heart of football.

The initial PPV vote was evidence I think of a detachment from reality. Reality only hit home when they saw the viewing figures.

Arsenal make 55 staff redundant saving £2.5m “because of the financial impact of coronavirus”.

Then a week later award Willian a contract worth a reported £11m a year. In the same summer spending £70m in transfer fees.
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

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Arsenal make 55 staff redundant saving £2.5m “because of the financial impact of coronavirus”.

Then a week later award Willian a contract worth a reported £11m a year. In the same summer spending £70m in transfer fees.

Now now. Less of this bolshie nonsense.

You clearly have no idea how the free market works ???

Everything has a value and everything has a price. Value minus price equals cost.

In these very difficult times, tough decisions have to be made :shrug:
 




beorhthelm

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Jul 21, 2003
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Clubs are more than happy to pay millions to agents and various other leeches in the game, but are all too quick to try and milk fans loyalty for extra £££ when it suits them.

and fans in their turn are quick to demand better results, better players, managers, costing more. so we go round and round.
 




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