Pompey At Home

[Rich Suvner]

There is something deeply wrong about what has been happening at Pompey over the last decade. But I don't wish on any fans the loss of their club.

Again the FA appears absent in its role as governing body. Pathetic organisation.

Big changes are needed on the issue of management, debt .leverage and pathetic penalties (10pts) for repeated mismanagement.

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[Lady Whistledown]

Ward, Halford and Henderson were all approached by other clubs concerning moves but all decided to remain at Fratton. If they remain in contract and do not want to move then there is nothing the club can do. The CE took stick over this but it was hardly his fault.

Cancel their contracts? Alright, might have faced legal action but what would be the point if the club went bust as a result.

I simply don't believe all this "didn't want to move" rubbish. If a player gets told he won't get paid if he stays, he's going to go. Mark Beeney was basically told he had no choice but to leave the Albion for Leeds as otherwise the club faced a winding up petition.

 

[Exiled in Exeter]

“There are some things in life other people’s money can’t buy …
…and Premier League football isn’t one of them.”

 

[HawkTheSeagull]

Feel sorry for the fans that the owners of the club they support drove it into the ground and into the shit, its all their own fault really and they havent learnt from the last time they went into administration.

As posted above, an AFC Pompey will come up soon - or maybe merge with Havant and Waterlooville to become Portalooville Town.

And when i say sorry for the fans, i mean the real fans, not the plastics.....and except the guy with the bells, wont miss him

 

[Pinkie Brown]

Cancel their contracts? Alright, might have faced legal action but what would be the point if the club went bust as a result.

If a player gets told he won't get paid if he stays, he's going to go. .

Which is why HMRC's challenge to the FA ruling that all football creditors should be paid before everyone else isn't a bad thing.

If a player is sitting tight on thousands a week suddenly discovers he could be in the queue with all the other creditors & might end up with 10p in the pound if he's lucky, he will soon tear up his contract & move on to newer pastures pretty sharpish.

 

[Barnham Seagull]

Very sad for the fans but any other business would 1) Been wound up ages ago on a fraction of their debt and 2) would not have done THREE times!

Have mixed emotions, would like to see them in league 2 with no money with crap players for a decade but the other part of me wants to see them wound up.

Having been through a liquidation last year where 150 people lost their jobs at a well run business that went under due to factors not of their control it makes me sick to see portsmouth fc behave the way they have and it would only be good practice to see them liquidated.

 

[Exiled in Exeter]

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[sams dad]

Those of you who say they feel sorry for the fans, would you have as much sympathy for them if it had been the Albion who had been cheated out of a place in the Premier League, or if it had been the Albion, and not Cardiff , who had lost in the Cup Final?

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

I simply don't believe all this "didn't want to move" rubbish.

Neither do I. They must have been told that it was all going to work out. Which for them - I am sure it will.

 

[Sir Norman Gull]

I have several Pompey season ticket friends and they are already resigned to the club folding and restarting lower down the leagues run by supporters. They are fed up with the mis handling of the club over the years,another friend tore his season ticket up prior to the previous administration because of the same reason and hasn't been back since.

 

[Shooting Star]

I feel sorry for the fans, but at some point teams need to be punished. It's not moral for a club to effectively illegally buy seasons in the Premiership and an FA Cup, go into administration once, and later go back in again. If it were me, I'd chuck them out of the Championship already; not fair on teams like Donny and Forest who spend within their means and regulations. I imagine Pompey fans would be saying that they would rather give their FA Cup back and stay in existence - bet they weren't saying that when they won it?

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

I have several Pompey season ticket friends and they are already resigned to the club folding and restarting lower down the leagues run by supporters.

Lucky that the Albion fans had a bit more fight in them than their Pompey counterparts seem to have. They almost seem to regard AFC Portsmouth as a done deal. They're ready to go down that route far too easily IMHO.

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

Lucky that the Albion fans had a bit more fight in them than their Pompey counterparts seem to have. They almost seem to regard AFC Portsmouth as a done deal. They're ready to go down that route far too easily IMHO.

I agree that we had more revolutionary fans and that is why we have a club today. However we did not face such a huge debt thankfully.

 

[jimhigham]

I agree that we had more revolutionary fans and that is why we have a club today. However we did not face such a huge debt thankfully.

I think Pompey's problems stem from the fact that they were buying temporary success and it seduced the supporters into going along for the ride. We are all rightly proud of the protest movement that set the template for future fans' movements. However, it is a lot easier to galvanise protest when you're bottom of the league and your home's been sold.

Even though something is rotten at Fratton, I can't see why we would want to penalise the supporters for that. We've been there. How soon we forget. By all means punish the club harshly and demote them if necessary but I don't see how we can just shrug and watch a century of tradition go under.

Good thread.

 

[Albion Dan]

Unfortunately the penny has dropped far too late for most of them. Its too late now for anything other than an AFC Pompey route. The debt is unservicable, and reforming is the only way to clear out the mess.

Massive potential for trouble in our match if it goes ahead as it could be their last. Hope the Police are thinking up a better plan than they had for Palace.

 

[Herne Hill Seagull]

I'm intrigued as to how it's supposed to be the fans' fault? How many of the financial decisions at the club do they make? How many of us can genuinely say that we have sufficient knowledge of the reality of our own club's finances to know that the money spent on CM-S, Hoskins, Buckley, wages for others and, oh yes, £95 million on the stadium, is not being spent with the same lack of regard for its sustainability?

I'm not, of course, saying that it is. I have great faith in the people running our club. But we don't know, any better than the Pompey fans did, and we can't do anything about it either way. And what about the Joe Schmo who works in the ticket office, or launders the kit, or answers the phones? How much say do they have in the financial affairs? Yet they stand to potentially lose their jobs, even if the club survives.

Also, if we won the cup, I'd 'swan' around London in my Brighton shirt too - it'd feel like vindication of continued support for my club when it would have been easy to bale out. What's the difference?

So I do, in fact, have every sympathy for the Pompey fans. This is to be regretted when it's any club, because it's never the fault of the club itself as an entity, and can hardly be pinned on the fans - it's always some incompetent or mendacious suit(s) who are never around afterwards to clean up their own mess.

 

[Hotchilidog]

I'm intrigued as to how it's supposed to be the fans' fault? How many of the financial decisions at the club do they make? How many of us can genuinely say that we have sufficient knowledge of the reality of our own club's finances to know that the money spent on CM-S, Hoskins, Buckley, wages for others and, oh yes, £95 million on the stadium, is not being spent with the same lack of regard for its sustainability?

I'm not, of course, saying that it is. I have great faith in the people running our club. But we don't know, any better than the Pompey fans did, and we can't do anything about it either way. And what about the Joe Schmo who works in the ticket office, or launders the kit, or answers the phones? How much say do they have in the financial affairs? Yet they stand to potentially lose their jobs, even if the club survives.

Also, if we won the cup, I'd 'swan' around London in my Brighton shirt too - it'd feel like vindication of continued support for my club when it would have been easy to bale out. What's the difference?

So I do, in fact, have every sympathy for the Pompey fans. This is to be regretted when it's any club, because it's never the fault of the club itself as an entity, and can hardly be pinned on the fans - it's always some incompetent or mendacious suit(s) who are never around afterwards to clean up their own mess.

You can find out if you really wanted to, or at least start to ask the pertinent questions when things start to look a little iffy. It wasn't the FA that found out the Articles of Association had been changed at Albion. Pompey fans have stood on the sidelines throughout this whole mess which has been going on for YEARS. The campaigns to rid the Albion of Archer and to get permission to return to Brighton and ultimately build The Amex proved that fans can indeed do something positive about problems at their club. If the 1997 class of Albion fans had the same attitude as the Pompey fans today, we wouldn't be discussing this on NSC today.

If Pompey do indeed go bust and a phoenix club arises then I will wish them all the best as they try to work their way back up the pyramid legitimately. To be honest it may be the best solution for the true pompey fans when they will finally be able to reclaim their club.

 

[Norman Baker suck my lozenge]

One thing that should come out of this shambles is that all clubs must be able to show financial ability to complete the season,
Why the f*** should we lose points just cos some shithouse outfit can't pay the leccy?

 

[tubaman]

Pompey have been cheating themselves and everybody else for far too long. We and their fans have known that their club was heading inexorably onto the sh*t heap and it has now slid into it's rightful place. Do I feel sorry for their fans? Yes, but not a lot.

next thread - chants for the Pompey match. This should be easy.

 

[abc]

Pompey have been cheating themselves and everybody else for far too long. We and their fans have known that their club was heading inexorably onto the sh*t heap and it has now slid into it's rightful place. Do I feel sorry for their fans? Yes, but not a lot.

next thread - chants for the Pompey match. This should be easy.

And this was really the point of my opening post. I for one will be both embarrassed and ashamed if Albion fans sing songs to take the piss out of the Portsmouth fans. Of course they enjoyed their day in the sun as we did when we were in (the old) Div 1 and they were in Div 3. Our fans are no less arrogant when we are doing well and no less wingey when we are not. We are all football fans, we support our LOCAL clubs and we all ultimately have no control over who owns our clubs and what happens to the money. No one should understand this better than a Brighton fan. All fans of any club (Brighton, Plymouth, Port vale, Wrexham, Wimbledon, Luton - the list goes on and on - AND Pompey) can do is turn up, support their team, enjoy any good times that come along and hope that the club they love is not one day screwed over.

If we take the piss out of the Pompey fans for their predicament then IMHO we will be utter hypocrites. I hope we stuff them on March 10th but I hope for the sake of the genuine fans that their club exists long into the future.