Players that probably feel hard done by

[sir danny cullip]

Following on from 1066 thread about reid what other albion players do you think feel hard done by by MM and why? My list is as follows:

Kuipers-shipped out on loan despite not playing that badly

Molango- Probably feels he was never given a chance

Reidy- Being mucked about position wise, never complained then dropped

El abd- Why does MM still play me at left back?

Big mac- Pissed off cause he had to walk home from burnley

Any others?

 

[Les Biehn]

You seem to have missed Nicolas who has more right to be pissed off than any of those.

 

[Barrel of Fun]

Not sure there are any others, but Molango is undoubtedly talented, just didn't get to show it. I dream that he will one day, but I guess he just didn't fit in...
How is he doing in Spain? I can't find anything anjd cant remember the club he is with....

 

[Beach Hut]

Nicolas is a real shame IMHO - quality player and should be playing week in week out.

 

[sir danny cullip]

You seem to have missed Nicolas who has more right to be pissed off than any of those.

Forgot he played for us to be honest! Seriously though, good spot, totally forgot about him. Given that a lot of other clubs wanted to sign him when we did he must be well annoyed. Never seems to complain though, maybe he should try kicking up a fuss?

 

[Yorkie]

Try asking him at the Raceday tomorrow. When you talk to these players they don't show any annoyance or resentment.

 

[the Realist]

hang on - let's go through the back of the programme

1: Kuipers - stitched up and publically harangued

2: Reid - refuses to play him (did he say something untoward on BBC SCR when summarising against crewe?)

3: Mayo - barely used this season - often disparing remarks to the press about him - seen him, Reidy and Nicolas together at matches - all three look well pissed off

4: Hinshelwood - NO PROBS (but then again he's only been fit for a month!)

5: Jason Dodd - NO PROBS ... but then again Dodds owes him big time for the nice fat salary he's picked up for bugger all

6: Nicolas - totally pissed off at never being used - three starts is it? Would surely have gone in January had he not been injured

7: Knight - Nuff Said!

8: Turienzo - Bit like Nicolas in that he is not being used - we have not been given the opportunity to judge him because he ain't playing. Often disparing remarks to press about him which seems strange given what he spent on him

9: Hart - Didn't start for the first month of the season because apparently he fell out with manager because he moved away from Sussex and had a long drive into training - injury crisis forced McGhee to use him - hasnlt looked back since.

10: Oatway - NO PROBS (but then again he did make him captain)

11: Hammond - has often made disparaging remarks to the press about his finishing - don;t think they have technically "fallen out" though

12: Carpenter - NO PROBS

13: Martin - NO PROBS

14: Butters - NO PROBS

15: McCammon - Nuff Said !

16: McPhee - not really been given the chance and now effectively released

17: Carole - has made disparagin remarks to the press about his light-weightedness, but generally NO PROBS I think

18: Jarrett - Never really featured - now totally blown out by McGhee - not sure why - attitude apparently

19: Frutos - regularly slagged off for being the root cause of a goal - usually by his failure to do a defensive job in his own penalty area - here's some news McGhee, he is not a defender! he is an attacking player who creates stuf

20: El-Abd - fell out big time at start of the season and was close to leaving when injury forced his recall to the side - ain';t no right winger though Mr McGhee

21: Robinson - Jake Who? (see Mayo, Nicolas, Turinezo, McPhee etc.)

22: Kazim-Richards - has publically slated in the past, and refused to start him in January because they fell out over something (I heard it was to do with the cup match)

23: Blayney - felt he wasn't given a fair crack by McGhee

23: Loft - NO PROBS (but it's his first job and he's all excited!)

24: McShane - NO PROBS - can't slag him off else he'll get the Fergie hairdryer!

26: Breach : not really applicable - but we don;t know what he might have been able to offer?

27: G .Elphick - Get sent off and cost me a thrashing against my old club Pal - that is the last time you'll wear the shirt.

28: Henderson - NO PROBS

29: Cox - ditto Breach

30: T.Elphick - not really applicable as really a Youth teamer

31: Sullivan - not really applicable


33: Gatting - NO PROBS - but then he's given him a professional contract!

34: Lynch - heard on the radio that he didn't play last week at QPR as a "punishment" apparently - not sure what for but suggests some kind of falling out

40 - Chaigneau - Channel Tunnelgags anyone?


So I make that between 15 - 17 players that he has fallen out with this season

Not bad man-management really is it!?

 

[London Irish]

hang on - let's go through the back of the programme

1: Kuipers - stitched up and publically harangued

2: Reid - refuses to play him (did he say something untoward on BBC SCR when summarising against crewe?)

3: Mayo - barely used this season - often disparing remarks to the press about him - seen him, Reidy and Nicolas together at matches - all three look well pissed off

4: Hinshelwood - NO PROBS (but then again he's only been fit for a month!)

5: Jason Dodd - NO PROBS ... but then again Dodds owes him big time for the nice fat salary he's picked up for bugger all

6: Nicolas - totally pissed off at never being used - three starts is it? Would surely have gone in January had he not been injured

7: Knight - Nuff Said!

8: Turienzo - Bit like Nicolas in that he is not being used - we have not been given the opportunity to judge him because he ain't playing. Often disparing remarks to press about him which seems strange given what he spent on him

9: Hart - Didn't start for the first month of the season because apparently he fell out with manager because he moved away from Sussex and had a long drive into training - injury crisis forced McGhee to use him - hasnlt looked back since.

10: Oatway - NO PROBS (but then again he did make him captain)

11: Hammond - has often made disparaging remarks to the press about his finishing - don;t think they have technically "fallen out" though

12: Carpenter - NO PROBS

13: Martin - NO PROBS

14: Butters - NO PROBS

15: McCammon - Nuff Said !

16: McPhee - not really been given the chance and now effectively released

17: Carole - has made disparagin remarks to the press about his light-weightedness, but generally NO PROBS I think

18: Jarrett - Never really featured - now totally blown out by McGhee - not sure why - attitude apparently

19: Frutos - regularly slagged off for being the root cause of a goal - usually by his failure to do a defensive job in his own penalty area - here's some news McGhee, he is not a defender! he is an attacking player who creates stuf

20: El-Abd - fell out big time at start of the season and was close to leaving when injury forced his recall to the side - ain';t no right winger though Mr McGhee

21: Robinson - Jake Who? (see Mayo, Nicolas, Turinezo, McPhee etc.)

22: Kazim-Richards - has publically slated in the past, and refused to start him in January because they fell out over something (I heard it was to do with the cup match)

23: Blayney - felt he wasn't given a fair crack by McGhee

23: Loft - NO PROBS (but it's his first job and he's all excited!)

24: McShane - NO PROBS - can't slag him off else he'll get the Fergie hairdryer!

26: Breach : not really applicable - but we don;t know what he might have been able to offer?

27: G .Elphick - Get sent off and cost me a thrashing against my old club Pal - that is the last time you'll wear the shirt.

28: Henderson - NO PROBS

29: Cox - ditto Breach

30: T.Elphick - not really applicable as really a Youth teamer

31: Sullivan - not really applicable


33: Gatting - NO PROBS - but then he's given him a professional contract!

34: Lynch - heard on the radio that he didn't play last week at QPR as a "punishment" apparently - not sure what for but suggests some kind of falling out

40 - Chaigneau - Channel Tunnelgags anyone?


So I make that between 15 - 17 players that he has fallen out with this season

Not bad man-management really is it!?

Congratulations - that must be a world record in terms of the number of lies made up about McGhee in one post. You must be so proud

 

[Les Biehn]

Congratulations - that must be a world record in terms of the number of lies made up about McGhee in one thread. You must be so proud

I'm not saying you or Realist are right or wrong but more just wondering what parts of his post do you believe to be lies?

 

[sir danny cullip]

Congratulations - that must be a world record in terms of the number of lies made up about McGhee in one post. You must be so proud

I thought it was a fair enough post, where are the lies?

 

[Sargey]

Where are the lies about McClown then....

Seems pretty fair to me

Good honest opinion I feel

 

[London Irish]

I'm not saying you or Realist are right or wrong but more just wondering what parts of his post do you believe to be lies?

All the unsourced rubbish.

 

[ben andrews' girlfriend]

I think the whole team feel hard done by by all negative crap that has been posted / said for the last few years, let alone this season.

 

[Les Biehn]

All the unsourced rubbish.

What unsourced rubbish?

 

[dougdeep]

A few of those are obviously made up. Ask MM today at the raceday..

 

[Yorkie]

A few of those are obviously made up. Ask MM today at the raceday..

Or the players themselves who will also be there.
Having spoken to quite a few of them named above I am sure fans will be put right as to attitudes.

 

[Icy Gull]

Players that don't get picked should be pissed off. Which of the players mentioned got their heads down and got on with proving the manager wrong rather than throwing hissy fits?. OGH and El Abd are the only ones I can think of apart from Reid who's omission does puzzle me. Two out of those three got back in the team. Just what have the others done in the reserves or on loan to warrant a recall?

 

[Yorkie]

Players that don't get picked should be pissed off. Which of the players mentioned got their heads down and got on with proving the manager wrong rather than throwing hissy fits?. OGH and El Abd are the only ones I can think of apart from Reid who's omission does puzzle me. Two out of those three got back in the team. Just what have the others done in the reserves or on loan to warrant a recall?

Include Kerry Mayo in that. He works hard and gets back in the team. He has every right to feel agrrieved because he was a regular at this level with Coppell. McGhee doesn't think he is as good (a lot of fans will agree) but you never hear Kezza moaning. He gets on with it and continues to work hard to get back in.

 

[Icy Gull]

Include Kerry Mayo in that. He works hard and gets back in the team. He has every right to feel agrrieved because he was a regular at this level with Coppell. McGhee doesn't think he is as good (a lot of fans will agree) but you never hear Kezza moaning. He gets on with it and continues to work hard to get back in.

Sorry Yorkie, you are right. Kerry seems to have a spot on attitude but as you say MM doesn't rate him as better than those with the shirt, which is fair enough.

 

[Goring Gull]

I think Kuipers has been seen for his true standard now with his performances at Boston, how many has he shipped lately?

One decision of Magoons i whole heartedly support just disapointed it isn't a permanent move.