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Player Ratings Thread (Watford - A)



jcdenton08

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Ryan - 6, nothing to do really, kicking solid
Bruno - 5, had a bit of a rough time, correct decision to sub him for fear of red card
Dunk - 7, very solid indeed, some good charges forward in the second half
Duffy - 7, strong as an ox, with Dunk had Gray in his pocket all day
Suttner - 6, did okay, exposed a bit for lack of pace but never to a serious extent
Propper - 3, extremely poor again, probably his worst so far. Bloke reminds me of Ryan Harley (this is not a good thing)
Stephens - 5, languid, a bit slow - not great today. Needs to up the tempo considerably
March - 6, some excellent crosses and corners, tracked back well, just nothing clinical
Knockhaert - 6, clearly got under their skin, worked hard as usual, just one of those "arms in the air" days he often has away from home. Shocking tackle on him
Gross - 4, ran hard again but still no sign of him creating anything (he created the most chances in all of Bundesliga last season), needs to toughen up as well
Hemed - 5, real doubts about his goal scoring credentials in the PL. Some nice touches as ever, but looks isolated too often.

Subs:

Rosenior - 6, solid, not a lot to add. PL quality and experience
Izquierdo - 7, looked a real bright spark. Excellent effort from 25 yards just wide, added an urgency and energy to our play. Some excellent tracking back to rescue Suttner. Looks sharp, must start next game.
 






Trigger

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Jul 4, 2003
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Brighton
Ryan - 6 - not much to do but did things well today.

Bruno - 4 - Very shaky indeed, time could be up soon?
Dunk - 7 - Commading
Duffy - 7 - As Dunk
Suttner - 4 - Totally ripped apart in the short time Amrabat was on, no pace, worrying

Stephens - 5 - Not his best today
Propper - 5 - Not as bad as people make out but a couple of errors
Gross - 6 - Marginally the best of the central 3, puts himself about well
March - 6 - Pretty average really, nothing to write home about
Knockaert - 6 - Made a big difference early doors but seemed to fade after the red card for them

Hemed - 5 - Worked hard as always, just lacks the ability to score at this level and I can't see that changing


Rosenior - 5 - Better than Bruno on the day and can only get better with fitness
Izquierdo - 6 - Bright little cameo, could have some decent potential
Murphy - N/A - Not on long enough.
 


sdmartin1

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Sep 23, 2008
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Ryan - 6 - not much to do but did things well today.

Bruno - 4 - Very shaky indeed, time could be up soon?
Dunk - 7 - Commading
Duffy - 7 - As Dunk
Suttner - 4 - Totally ripped apart in the short time Amrabat was on, no pace, worrying

Stephens - 5 - Not his best today
Propper - 5 - Not as bad as people make out but a couple of errors
Gross - 6 - Marginally the best of the central 3, puts himself about well
March - 6 - Pretty average really, nothing to write home about
Knockaert - 6 - Made a big difference early doors but seemed to fade after the red card for them

Hemed - 5 - Worked hard as always, just lacks the ability to score at this level and I can't see that changing


Rosenior - 5 - Better than Bruno on the day and can only get better with fitness
Izquierdo - 6 - Bright little cameo, could have some decent potential
Murphy - N/A - Not on long enough.
Agree with those ratings, all the fullbacks were suspect for me.
 


y2dave

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Jul 23, 2003
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Ryan - 6, barely called upon thankfully
Bruno - 5, poor today, couple of easy balls straight out of play and a red waiting to happen
Dunk - 8, not only great at the back but drove the team on with urgency
Duffy - 7, commanding but a few mistakes attacking set pieces
Suttner - 6, composed going forward but looks a little one paced
Propper - 6, don't get the hate, thought he was sensible and patient in possession but could have been more positive at times
Stephens - 6, a good battling shift despite giving away a couple of silly free kicks
March - 6, good service today - sure a more mobile striker will thrive from his versatile delivery
Knockhaert - 7, really positive, got through 80 minutes and came close to forcing 2 goals
Gross - 6, For me we need him on the ball more and he should be playing deeper, instead of one of Propper or Stephens
Hemed - 5, Not much of a threat other than getting across his man for Solly's cross - which could have been the match winning moment to be fair

Subs:

Rosenior - 6, calmed things down when needed, couple of poor decisions when in possession
Izquierdo - 7, great cameo, looks a real find
Murphy - N/A
 




Albion Robster

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Jul 21, 2003
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Ryan - 6: No saves to make. Claimed a couple of crosses. Decent distribution.
Bruno - 6: Touch was on point but passing was not. Booked and subbed at h/t.
Suttner - 6: Beaten twice in first half from weak challenges. Better in second half and got forward well.
Dunk - 8 MOTM: Rolls Royce performance on the pitch. Excellent long passes. Handled Gray well.
Duffy - 7: Big Shane just loves heading the ball. Complements Dunk's work and positioning.
Knockeart - 8: Full on running all game. Unlucky with shot that hit the post. How did he play on from that challenge?
Stephens - 6: Still looks a bit slow and unfit. Needs to be quicker on the ball.
Propper - 7: Better on the ball. Got forward, needs to be confident to take on shot.
March - 7: Full of running. Tracked back, especially in 80 mins to deny Richarlson. Needs to work on end product.
Gross - 5: Wasteful with the ball. Needs to be more physical. Not helping/supporting the striker.
Hemed: 6: Battled and ran all game. If only he could finish.

Subs:
Rosenior - 6: Steady performance. Got forward, looked a bit rusty.
Izquierdo - 6: Should have come on a lot earlier for Gross. Looks exciting and QUICK.
Murphy - N\A

Woodwork - 8: Saved Watford
 


saafend_seagull

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Jul 5, 2003
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Gross again the weak link, can't complete a pass.

Stephens was off the pace, gave away five fouls outside the box.

Ryan - 7
Bruno - 7
Dunk - 9, will be gone next summer to top 6 side
Duffy - 8
Suttner - 7
Gross - 4, just runs and takes good corners, nothing else. Brown will take his place.
Stephens - 6, gave away too many fouls and a little slow
Propper - 7, best game and looks quality in moments, needs a better no10 and forward infront of him
March - 7, tired towards end
Knoackaert - 8, look much better with him. He takes players out of game which makes space
Hemed - 6, had a few chances, just doesn't have the place

New guy looked bright when he came on
 


One Teddy Maybank

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Just back. That felt a lot better.

6 - average

Ryan 7
Bruno 5
Duffy 6
Dunk 8
Suttner 6
Knockaert 7
Stephens 5
Propper 6
March 7
Gross 5
Hemed 6
Rosenoir 6
Izquierdo 7 for the shot that clipped the bar and chase back.
Murphy n/a


Ref 5 - inconsistent




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BangaloreGull

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Jun 18, 2011
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Ryan - 6 - not much to do but did things well today.

Bruno - 4 - Very shaky indeed, time could be up soon?
Dunk - 7 - Commading
Duffy - 7 - As Dunk
Suttner - 4 - Totally ripped apart in the short time Amrabat was on, no pace, worrying

Stephens - 5 - Not his best today
Propper - 5 - Not as bad as people make out but a couple of errors
Gross - 6 - Marginally the best of the central 3, puts himself about well
March - 6 - Pretty average really, nothing to write home about
Knockaert - 6 - Made a big difference early doors but seemed to fade after the red card for them

Hemed - 5 - Worked hard as always, just lacks the ability to score at this level and I can't see that changing


Rosenior - 5 - Better than Bruno on the day and can only get better with fitness
Izquierdo - 6 - Bright little cameo, could have some decent potential
Murphy - N/A - Not on long enough.

Would give Dunk an 8, he was one of our best attacking threats as well,and Stephens a 6 although I agree with others that he gave away several free kicks that he shouldn't have, otherwise agree.
 


Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
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Gross again the weak link, can't complete a pass.

Stephens was off the pace, gave away five fouls outside the box.

Ryan - 7
Bruno - 7
Dunk - 9, will be gone next summer to top 6 side
Duffy - 8
Suttner - 7
Gross - 4, just runs and takes good corners, nothing else. Brown will take his place.
Stephens - 6, gave away too many fouls and a little slow
Propper - 7, best game and looks quality in moments, needs a better no10 and forward infront of him
March - 7, tired towards end
Knoackaert - 8, look much better with him. He takes players out of game which makes space
Hemed - 6, had a few chances, just doesn't have the place

New guy looked bright when he came on

Unsentimental SSN giving Bruno a 5, their lowest score for an Albion player today.

Strange how he gets one high rating.
 














RM-Taylor

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Watched online Dunk and Duffy looked great at the back. Thought Hemed looked decent on the stream so slightly bemused by the low marks given to him. Gross looked better than last week but Propper still keeps giving the ball away, maybe time for Sidwell to come in for him.
 




Megazone

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Ryan - 6: No saves to make. Claimed a couple of crosses. Decent distribution.
Bruno - 6: Touch was on point but passing was not. Booked and subbed at h/t.
Suttner - 6: Beaten twice in first half from weak challenges. Better in second half and got forward well.
Dunk - 8 MOTM: Rolls Royce performance on the pitch. Excellent long passes. Handled Gray well.
Duffy - 7: Big Shane just loves heading the ball. Complements Dunk's work and positioning.
Knockeart - 8: Full on running all game. Unlucky with shot that hit the post. How did he play on from that challenge?
Stephens - 6: Still looks a bit slow and unfit. Needs to be quicker on the ball.
Propper - 7: Better on the ball. Got forward, needs to be confident to take on shot.
March - 7: Full of running. Tracked back, especially in 80 mins to deny Richarlson. Needs to work on end product.
Gross - 5: Wasteful with the ball. Needs to be more physical. Not helping/supporting the striker.
Hemed: 6: Battled and ran all game. If only he could finish.

Subs:
Rosenior - 6: Steady performance. Got forward, looked a bit rusty.
Izquierdo - 6: Should have come on a lot earlier for Gross. Looks exciting and QUICK.
Murphy - N\A

Woodwork - 8: Saved Watford

I'd swap PRopper and Stephens rating around. Other than that, this is pretty much how I saw it.

PS I thought March's crossing was very good.
 


Deadly Danson

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Ryan - 6, nothing to do really, kicking solid
Bruno - 5, had a bit of a rough time, correct decision to sub him for fear of red card
Dunk - 7, very solid indeed, some good charges forward in the second half
Duffy - 7, strong as an ox, with Dunk had Gray in his pocket all day
Suttner - 6, did okay, exposed a bit for lack of pace but never to a serious extent
Propper - 3, extremely poor again, probably his worst so far. Bloke reminds me of Ryan Harley (this is not a good thing)
Stephens - 5, languid, a bit slow - not great today. Needs to up the tempo considerably
March - 6, some excellent crosses and corners, tracked back well, just nothing clinical
Knockhaert - 6, clearly got under their skin, worked hard as usual, just one of those "arms in the air" days he often has away from home. Shocking tackle on him
Gross - 4, ran hard again but still no sign of him creating anything (he created the most chances in all of Bundesliga last season), needs to toughen up as well
Hemed - 5, real doubts about his goal scoring credentials in the PL. Some nice touches as ever, but looks isolated too often.

Subs:

Rosenior - 6, solid, not a lot to add. PL quality and experience
Izquierdo - 7, looked a real bright spark. Excellent effort from 25 yards just wide, added an urgency and energy to our play. Some excellent tracking back to rescue Suttner. Looks sharp, must start next game.

Propper a 3!! It's all about opinions but I just can't fathom how anyone who watched that today could possibly give him that low a score.
 






Nixonator

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Ryan 7 - Calm and collected well, very good distribution.
Bruno 5 - Off game, couldn't seem to manage a simple 5 yard pass.
Suttner 6 - Unconvinced defensively.
Duffy 7 - Won most of what was thrown at him.
Dunk 9 - Indomitable, loved his run. The outrageous 70 yard driven diagonals have to stop or we'll lose him in January.
Propper 6 - Growing into this league, slowly. Signs of encouragement amongst errors.
Stephens 6 - As above but put himself about better.
Knockaert 7 - Massively encouraging to see him fully fit again and will give PL fullbacks a torrid time just as easily as he did Championship ones.
March 7 - Doesn't look out of place in this league. The one time he could have been considered wasteful he should have had a corner for in the first half, surprised his teamates and fans didn't appeal.
Gross 6 - Tidy player, just not finding his feet yet. Dispossessed them a couple of times in dangerous positions but Hemed far too static.
Hemed 6 - Hit the post with his most difficult chance, should have put one away from corner in 2nd.

Rosenoir 5 - Continued on from Tuesday, looks totally out of match practice.
Izquierdo 7 - Absolute scenes if that shot had gone in. Loved the tracking back to get his fullback out of jail. He's rapid.
Murphy 4 - Would not normally rate someone on the pitch for so little, but the most frustrating moment of the whole game for me was Murphy running the ball into a defenders leg in injury time with so many options open to him and likely our last attack of the game, which in turn sprung a Watford counter that Stephens was force to concede a foul to stop. It brought back memories of Leicester's opener, he needs better decision making at this level.

Far more positives than negatives. Encouraged.
 
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