The Wizard
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Platini wants sin bin rule introduced
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brakespear
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No.
But Ipossibly agree with him about goalkeepers and penalties though.
But Ipossibly agree with him about goalkeepers and penalties though.
mejonaNO12 aka riskit
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"I would make it like rugby, punishing the offender with 10 or 15 minutes out of the game,"
He lets himself down straight away. In Rugby you have to do something pretty wrong to get a yellow. It's a suitable punishment
Football is not rugby.
He lets himself down straight away. In Rugby you have to do something pretty wrong to get a yellow. It's a suitable punishment
Football is not rugby.
Bold Seagull
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Yes.
Referee's are limited in their control of players. Too many games ruined by red cards as once a yellow is issued, there is no alternative. A red should be a last resort for the most severe of offences. Yellow cards followed by a sin bin would give refs a a greater range of maintaining control on the pitch.
Referee's are limited in their control of players. Too many games ruined by red cards as once a yellow is issued, there is no alternative. A red should be a last resort for the most severe of offences. Yellow cards followed by a sin bin would give refs a a greater range of maintaining control on the pitch.
BarnhamBlue
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Yellow cards to stay, but use sin bins for unacceptance verbal towards the officials. Give them 10 / 15 mins to cool down.
father_and_son
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Don't particularly agree with his description of it working, but in principle I agree with a sin-bin process for certain offences.
There are plenty of times when I think a yellow isn't enough but a red would be harsh. I don't think the Yellow should automatically become sin-bin time, my solution would be:
Yellow - as present for any single serious or persistent minor technical infringements of the rules
SinBin - new category of offences covering persistent time wasting, diving and disrespecting the referee
Red - Mostly as is eg violent conduct, multiple lesser offences, handball in the box
There are plenty of times when I think a yellow isn't enough but a red would be harsh. I don't think the Yellow should automatically become sin-bin time, my solution would be:
Yellow - as present for any single serious or persistent minor technical infringements of the rules
SinBin - new category of offences covering persistent time wasting, diving and disrespecting the referee
Red - Mostly as is eg violent conduct, multiple lesser offences, handball in the box
The Wizard
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As has been said Rugby is completely different and referees have much better authority and only issue yellow cards if a player offends 3 times or more, or commits a more serious offence. In football yellow cards are given for absolutely nothing sometimes, it would mean refereeing mistakes could alter games even more which is not a good thing.
Yes - I would probably want fewer offences to be punishable though - although definitely all abuse. Currently I think teams expect to receive a number of bookings in the nature of the game - Mistimed tackles without malice for example
This would introduce a whole new layer of cynicism. It doesn't mater how you frame this law, plenty of coaches will be working on the best ways to exploit this from day one.
Yes - this sounds good. I agree that it can't be a like-for-like replacement for the yellow card, but can be used to cut out instances of players being c***s.
Pavilionaire
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In an ideal world YES, but I could see this resulting in carnage, i.e. players that should have received a straight red instead getting a sin bin, then coming back to score. Or, yellow card being uplifted incorrectly to a sin bin and the penalised team conceding minutes later.
The game is getting faster, there's more money so more a stake which means more cheating, so the introduction of a sin bin will make things even harder for referees. This is why I favour the referee consulting with his assistants much more than he does already (see American football, Aussie Rules, baseball where offiicals work as a team)
The game is getting faster, there's more money so more a stake which means more cheating, so the introduction of a sin bin will make things even harder for referees. This is why I favour the referee consulting with his assistants much more than he does already (see American football, Aussie Rules, baseball where offiicals work as a team)
Players conning refs to sin bin an opponent doesn't sit easy with me.
Also by aboloshing the sending off of a keeper could lead to more 'professional' fouls as there's a chance you could save the penalty. Seems like tinkering for the sake of it or for Platini to believe he's leaving a legacy.
Also by aboloshing the sending off of a keeper could lead to more 'professional' fouls as there's a chance you could save the penalty. Seems like tinkering for the sake of it or for Platini to believe he's leaving a legacy.
Knotty
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Sin Bin should not replace a yellow but I have long thought there should be a middle ground between a yellow and a red. So an orange card would mean a 10 minute sin bin.
It can be a straight orange, say, for abuse, or it could be for two yellows that doesn't warrant a red. Kicking the ball away or taking your shirt off are stupid but hardly justify a red if you do it twice, particularly when some bad fouls only get a yellow.
It can be a straight orange, say, for abuse, or it could be for two yellows that doesn't warrant a red. Kicking the ball away or taking your shirt off are stupid but hardly justify a red if you do it twice, particularly when some bad fouls only get a yellow.
Puppet Master
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In principle it sounds an alright idea but playing with say, 10 men for 10 minutes when you're on the back foot already then having a player take a breather and come back fresher could be something of an advantage.
Monsieur Le Plonk
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All for it. Immediate and relevant to the match being played.
Referee abuse and unsportsmanship behaviour such as diving and time wasting would be a thing of the past IF enforced properly. It's a big 'if' though.
Referee abuse and unsportsmanship behaviour such as diving and time wasting would be a thing of the past IF enforced properly. It's a big 'if' though.
bn1&bn3 Albion
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In theory it could work, in reality, it wouldn't..
Penalties are often given because an offence has been committed in an effort to stop either a certain goal or a close range shot. When you give a penalty to the team that had the goal or close range shot taken away by their opponent breaking the law, you're just putting things back how they would have been without the defending team cheating, how is that punishment? If I steal someone's car and the police catch me and give that person their car back, I haven't been punished. Giving a team a penalty is the same as giving someone their car back. The rule breaker isn't punished, he just has his rule breaking negated.
The idea that keepers, or any player, should not be punished because a penalty is punishment enough is, imo, wrong. A penalty (despite its name) isn't punishment, it's an attempt to give the attacking team something that was illicitly taken from them. The booking or sending off is the punishment, and people who break the laws of the game should be punished.
The idea that keepers, or any player, should not be punished because a penalty is punishment enough is, imo, wrong. A penalty (despite its name) isn't punishment, it's an attempt to give the attacking team something that was illicitly taken from them. The booking or sending off is the punishment, and people who break the laws of the game should be punished.