Paul Ince, Steve Coppell and Gareth Southgate are f***ing thick

[Brighton Breezy]

Also a lot of english managers traditionally have been former players without necessarily having coaching qualifications, experience.

They are employed more for their motivation capabilities than their footballing and tactical know-how.

Look at the way countless former players get found jobs within clubs - often as coaches and sometimes as management. Some get by on having a footballing brain and having picked up from their previous managers, a la Roy Keane, mark Hughes etc. Others don't.

It goes down the leagues as far as grass-roots football. People in Holland who are coaching youngsters are all qualified coaches - here they are someone's dad who worryingly often is more intent on winning the under 12s league title than working on technique etc.

 

[Pavilionaire]

I don't blame Ince, Coppell, Adams for their remarks. They're not having a pop at Capello after all.

However, there aren't any English candidates who fit the bill. At a stretch you could say Redknapp, Hoddle, Venables and Hodgson but two of them have already done the job and 2 have been passed over so many times.

The FA have, for once, got their process and appointment right. I'm looking forward to Capello taking over, but I feel the FA are wrong to be pressurising him to include an Englishman in his backroom staff. If you want the guy badly enough let him do it HIS WAY.

 

[Uncle Buck]

The last Englishman we used to groom whilst having a foreign manager, to learn his trade, be bought up through the system to GLORY with the 1st team set up was STEVE MCCLAREN

lets do it someone else - BRILLIANT!!!

McLaren was a bit odd in that sense. He started off helping Sven out and then Gibson vetoed it as Boro were on a poor run. So Brian Kidd came into the set up, but then was digagnosed with cancer, so McLaren came back in, seemingly on a temporary basis and we got stuck with him when Sven went.

 

[Alex Alex Dawson oo! oo!]

It goes down the leagues as far as grass-roots football. People in Holland who are coaching youngsters are all qualified coaches - here they are someone's dad who worryingly often is more intent on winning the under 12s league title than working on technique etc.

Are you saying here that you can coach a kid's football team here in the UK without having any coaching qualifications whatsoever to do so? If so, I hadn't realised this was the case and it sounds a bizzare.
I used to coach mini-rugby at our local club (Cranleigh) but would never have considered doing so without going through the RFU training course first. In fact I'm not sure you're allowed to do so because of the player insurance conditions! Surely it's the same/similar for a junior football club or aren't they required by the FA to have player insurance?

 

[Pavilionaire]

I also seem to recall Bryan Robson was appointed No.2 to work alongside Venables, and a lot of good that did all concerned.

Peter Taylor's now at Stevenage and where David Platt is God only knows.

The FA should show some balls and forget about having an Englishman in the team UNLESS CAPELLO SAYS SO.

 

[Uncle Buck]

I also seem to recall Bryan Robson was appointed No.2 to work alongside Venables, and a lot of good that did all concerned.

Peter Taylor's now at Stevenage and where David Platt is God only knows.

The FA should show some balls and forget about having an Englishman in the team UNLESS CAPELLO SAYS SO.

I think Venables also had Ray Wilkins helping out with the U21's...

 

[Jimbo26]

I am surprised Southgate has lasted as long as he has at Boro. Only a matter of time for the Horse faced twat

 

[Pavilionaire]

One point that hasn't been made here is that when Liverpool and Chelsea have changed managers in recent times the likes of Redknapp, Allardyce, Curbishley, Hodgson have barely warranted consideration, so why should they be considered suitable for the England job?

 

[keaton]

I think there should be quota where managers are concerned, Every premeirship team has to appoint an Englishman as manager at least every other time

 

[Pavilionaire]

Keaton, that might be the WORST idea I've ever seen on NSC...

 

[keaton]

I know, why stop there though? all the managers and all the players are only allowed to come from within the distance you'd hear a chant from the home ground. Then more people would come to matches and there'd be a better atmosphere. I might send that to the Daily Mail

 

[Pavilionaire]

Now that's more like it Keaton! I wouldn't fancy West Ham to keep too many clean sheets, the defence would be too busy doing the Lambeth Walk and Knees Up Mother Brown...

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Now that's more like it Keaton! I wouldn't fancy West Ham to keep too many clean sheets, the defence would be too busy doing the Lambeth Walk and Knees Up Mother Brown...

.....

 

[London Calling]

Now that's more like it Keaton! I wouldn't fancy West Ham to keep too many clean sheets, the defence would be too busy doing the Lambeth Walk and Knees Up Mother Brown...

and Palace would spend the whole 90 minutes shagging their sisters....................

 

[Brighton Breezy]

Are you saying here that you can coach a kid's football team here in the UK without having any coaching qualifications whatsoever to do so? If so, I hadn't realised this was the case and it sounds a bizzare.
I used to coach mini-rugby at our local club (Cranleigh) but would never have considered doing so without going through the RFU training course first. In fact I'm not sure you're allowed to do so because of the player insurance conditions! Surely it's the same/similar for a junior football club or aren't they required by the FA to have player insurance?

It is getting better in that people are encouraged to go on courses by their clubs and many local coaches DO get qualifications but by no means is it the norm or required.

 

[Alex Alex Dawson oo! oo!]

It is getting better in that people are encouraged to go on courses by their clubs and many local coaches DO get qualifications but by no means is it the norm or required.

Thanks. So there's probably no insurance for the kids then unless football is treated completely differently to rugby at junior level - don't think I'd be too keen on coaching a team or having my kids playing for one under these circumstances though.

 

[Captain Haddock]

If you are an English manager in the Premier League, currently you stand no chance of managing Man Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool etc. Why? Because those clubs want off the shelf proven manangers with European experience. So do the FA.

So if I were an English manager knowing that I satnd no chance of getting the top job, then surely the answer is to try and manager abroad. I appreciate that you wont get the top Barcelona job straight away, but if you think you are good, then go to a smaller European Club and get noticed. That way, at least you'll have it on your CV when applying for the Liverpools of FA.

Think about Curbishley and Alardyce. Both overlooked by the Fa because a lack of European experience, so what do they do.......Manage in England.

Spot on! The last truly 'successful' England manager was Bobby Robson....semi-final without Venables home advantage of '96. And he managed to the top level at PSV, Barca and in Portugal. I doubt this is a coincidence!

 

[cjd]

Cant help but think all these overseas managers are a bit over-rated. Sure they win league titles............but how strong are the leagues they,re in...? With Real; Madrid, the only competition is Barcelona...! Hardly makes you a great manager to be the best out of two teams.
The English football league is littered with the failures of foreign managers that were appointed.
Who couldn,t succeed with the money Chelsea spent...? Benitez....another relative failure, Man Utd...a British manager..........Arsenal with Wenger, is the ONLY really successful foreign manager in English football.
No wonder we dont "apparently" have good managers....!

 

[questier]

I completely agree with us having no decent english candidates, but thats because they are never really given the opportunity at the highest level with the biggest clubs.
However, Copello is the best manager we can get at the moment, and has a superb track record, so I'm right behind him

 

[Seasider78]

It's the England team for allahs sake,and the team should have an England manager ,or it's an England XI rather than an England team.

Capello's cv may look wonderful,but his teams produce woeful football which is why he was SACKED by Real Madrid.They could suffer winning,but not how they won.

And he'll win nowt with England,and the FA will need another sackfull of money to see him and his mates on the Alitalia to Rome.

Yep that woeful football that allowed him to

1992: Wins first of four Italian league titles with Milan
1994: Milan beat Barcelona 4-0 in European Cup final
1997: Wins Spanish league with Real Madrid
2001: Guides Roma to their first Scudetto for 18 years
2004: Wins Scudetto in first season with Juventus
2007: Guides Real to La Liga during his second spell

Get him out now and lets get one of the top English coaches in who have produced the dynamic world class football on display at Porstmouth, Newcastle and West Ham.