Palace - Don't sign petition, I hope they go bust

[Mr Burns]

Sorry, but I'm going to against the grain and say, I hope Crystal Palace go out of business.

Nothing against Palace, but clubs that run up huge debts, and then pull the plug, should not continue. Live within your means, or go bust.

I'm sure there's a lot of business and families suffering on the back of numerous football clubs spending out of control, and then going into admin. It's about time we took a step back, and let clubs go to the wall, and start again down the football pyramid. It might make the rest of them run their accounts in order.

And before people pull the old, "WHat about us" line. Our situation was completely different. We had a pair of ***** come in, and try and asset strip the club. The only reason we survived is the fans fault back. If we hadn't we would have folded, and they would have got away with it.

Pomey scum, Palace scum, Leeds, Saints fans, Leicester fans(and the list goes on) loved it when the clubs we splashing the cash and doing well, didn't see them signing petetions then, but when it goes tits up, they want everyone to rally round and help.

f*** em. Look at Southampton. Started the season on minus points, ended the season as probably the highest payers in the division, and no doubt will storm to the title next season.

Where's the justice in that?

It's time the football authorities grow some bollocks, and expelled these clubs from the league. It's the only way to stop the rest of football as seeing adminastration as a calculated gamble.

 

[Ernest]

Exactly, well said

 

[The Wizard]

There should be no albion then.

 

[Simster]

I don't hope they go bust, but I will say that if you live by the sword, you die by the sword and I don't see why everyone else should rally around cajoling a business deal to get done.

It's also time to realise that there is now so much money in football, that there is very little the common man can actually do. Some of the self congratulating hand-wringing on here about how we did this-and-that, suffered and played in the lower leagues simply beggars belief.

As if the scenrio of forcing out a couple of asset strippers is in any way be comparible to a fan consortium who buys his club and then overspends. As fans, we're all pretty much helpless in the latter example.

 

[Mr Burns]

There should be no albion then.

FFS. No. AS said our situation was completely different.

 

[Icy Gull]

If an example has to be made, can it be Pompey please and not Palace.

 

[Stat Brother]

If an example has to be made, can it be Pompey please and not Palace.

That would make sense all round.

They should go, Bournemouth, Soton, Pompey, ... (if only there was some kind of connection)

 

[Acker79]

To a degree I agree.

But earlier I wondered how the threat of being kicked out of the league would affect things.

At the moment a club that has overspent can survive by going into administration. Yes, it is unfair that they then wipe clear their debts, and people lose jobs and entities such as St John's Ambulance get shafted on money, but the club survives, it remains a potential investment.

If admin results in you being kicked out the league the club becomes a lot less attractive an entity for potential buyers, and it will lead to clubs going into liquidation more frequently than at the moment.

Look at the trouble Pompey and Palace are having getting buyers, and they have championship status. Would CP2010 being interested if they were looking forward to non league?

Yes, I know that "well, they should live within their means". I agree. But what about clubs that are currently in trouble now, and not because they hired premiership players for a league one season, but because of the economy, the football on TV driving attendances down more than predicted before contracts were signed, etc, isn't it moving the goal posts on them?

It would need to, imo, allow for some sort of protection of clubs currently struggling. Maybe a register of clubs currently struggling who will be exempt if they go into admin in the next two years. Then after two years, everyone in the same boat.

 

[stig]

Save Crystal Palace Football Club Petition

 

[Foolg]

I hope they get f***ed over, and spend a few years in the bottom tiers (Lower L1, L2) so we can rub it in a while, but i dont want them bust. The new AFC Palace or whatever would not be the same, and the clubs rivalry is one of the best things about it. I wouldnt want to wait 10/15 years or whatever it would take for another "derby" with AFC Palace ffs!
A few years of pain for their fans, YES, the club no more? No thanks.

 

[Acker79]

If an example has to be made, can it be Pompey please and not Palace.

Well, I think there needs to be two examples, one for the premier league, one for the football league. I think they should both be used.

 

[severnside gull]

There is no need for them to go out of business

The deal is (by their own admission) already in place to buy the club.

There is an issue about a prime asset (the ground) which the consortium wants to get on the cheap



WELL f*** THEM


they already cheated by spending money they ddn't have and now they want to start again by doing exactly the same thing all over again. Groundhog Day?

Not with my support

 

[DerbyGull]

Twat

 

[Couldn't Be Hyypia]

I don't think Southampton dumped their debt. They were in the crap and they found a buyer who paid off the creditors the full amount didn't he? If so, not the same thing as Portsmouth and Palace (who have done this before) at all.

Can someone confirm that?

 

[Twinkle Toes]

Very, very harsh. I hope the club get what they deserve - with regard to their ludicrous overspending etc - but to go out of existence? I personally wouldn't even wish that on Brumscum.

 

[cyanide-sid]

There should be no albion then.

Did we go into administration and stiff our creditors whilst paying out for good players and good wages to keep going strongly in the Championship ?

 

[DerbyGull]

Sorry, but I'm going to against the grain and say, I hope Crystal Palace go out of business.

Nothing against Palace, but clubs that run up huge debts, and then pull the plug, should not continue. Live within your means, or go bust.

I'm sure there's a lot of business and families suffering on the back of numerous football clubs spending out of control, and then going into admin. It's about time we took a step back, and let clubs go to the wall, and start again down the football pyramid. It might make the rest of them run their accounts in order.

And before people pull the old, "WHat about us" line. Our situation was completely different. We had a pair of ***** come in, and try and asset strip the club. The only reason we survived is the fans fault back. If we hadn't we would have folded, and they would have got away with it.

Pomey scum, Palace scum, Leeds, Saints fans, Leicester fans(and the list goes on) loved it when the clubs we splashing the cash and doing well, didn't see them signing petetions then, but when it goes tits up, they want everyone to rally round and help.

f*** em. Look at Southampton. Started the season on minus points, ended the season as probably the highest payers in the division, and no doubt will storm to the title next season.

Where's the justice in that?

It's time the football authorities grow some bollocks, and expelled these clubs from the league. It's the only way to stop the rest of football as seeing adminastration as a calculated gamble.

Are you that short sighted that you don't realise it's all the greed of the premiership and the correlative effect it has down the leagues.

 

[Ernest]

Are you that short sighted that you don't realise it's all the greed of the premiership and the correlative effect it has down the leagues.

Weren't Palace in the Premiership not so long ago ? Didn't see any of their bollocks then did we ? And what about the millions in parachute money they got ?

f*** them

 

[Brovion]

Are you that short sighted that you don't realise it's all the greed of the premiership and the correlative effect it has down the leagues.

Are you so short-sighted that you can't see that it's clubs that overspend that create the problems for the rest of us? If certain clubs are prepared to pay silly money on transfers and salaries other clubs feel they have to do the same in order to compete. Consequently financial problems get transmitted from club to club like Herpes. Sanity HAS to be restored, and this situation will be repeated again and again all the while clubs know that the penalty for going bust is simply to lose a few points and then you're allowed to start again pretty much where you left off. In the meantime we have to pay £25 to sit in the open air on a hard plastic seat as Brighton need to compete and thus need to try and match the salaries paid by the 'cheating' clubs.

EDIT: Sorry, I should have said 'big' cheating clubs. Little clubs (e.g. Chester) that are badly run do pay the correct penalty.

 

[severnside gull]

Twat

thank you

I take it you disagree?