[Misc] Own Teeth? . . . Dentures? . . . Implants?

[Paulie Gualtieri]

By the time he added on the return air fare to Cairo, there probably wasn't much of a saving!

Sounds like a pyramid scheme to me, be careful

 

[Bakero]

I wouldn’t trust staying in a hotel in Egypt never mind dental surgery ! poor standards of healthcare in my opinion.

Is your opinion based on anything other than your prejudice?

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I wouldn’t trust staying in a hotel in Egypt never mind dental surgery ! poor standards of healthcare in my opinion.

No doubt there’s a superb dentist on Church Road?

 

[zefarelly]

No doubt there’s a superb dentist on Church Road?

I went to a dentist on Church Rd around '97. Had no fillings at the time, and left with 6 . . .3 of those teeth are now landfill . . . My current dentist, like me, is convionced they were unnecessarily drilled and filled. Fortunately, thos that remain weren't drilled to deep And have been restored.

I'm no fan of dentistry, but having found a good one it all seems like a good deal, and right on my dorstep.

 

[WATFORD zero]

Being a child of the 60s I was somewhat put off by the butchers who were around at the time (one deciding to extract 7 child teeth in one sitting) filling everything in sight and always seeming to be incredibly painful. Consequently, had quite a few fillings by the time I reached my late teens and stopped going. Picked up again in early 30s and got into the habit of going regularly. Over the years have had various work done (including all the old fillings replaced) and at the grand old age of 59 had my first adult extraction.

One of my back molars flared up each time the dentist poked around and I had to have antibiotics to settle it down. She suggested that I go to a specialist as they would have to drill through my jawbone to fix it and 'save the tooth'. Given that by that time the tooth was a root canal filling with a post and a Crown, I wasn't sure it was worth 'saving' and had it out.

Few years on, all the rest are still fairly solid.

My kids, who we always hassled about dental care are now late 20's with one and no fillings respectively.

 

[The Antikythera Mechanism]

My dentist told me it takes longer than a day for just one. They put the thing into your jaw and when it’s healed you go back to have the tooth stuck on top.

I had two implants in 2007. Both drilled and fixed in the same day, but no crowns fitted until gums and bone fully healed 3 months later. Still as good as new.

 

[The Seagull]

Turkey 3 years ago. Best 6k I’ve paid. My teeth were horrible. Didn’t like smiling. Now I even smile at funerals

 

[Mr Putdown]

People talk about having implants abroad but mine take four visits.

This.

I’ve now got 8 implants, two of which also required a bone graft as part of the treatment.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I had two implants in 2007. Both drilled and fixed in the same day, but no crowns fitted until gums and bone fully healed 3 months later. Still as good as new.

This is what I was told. They told me it takes time for for the gums and bone to heal and also for the thing they fix to your bone to settle….then they fit the crown. A whole mouth, crowns and all, in one day doesn’t sound good to me.

If you go to Egypt…you’ll need to book two trips. Is this really cost effective?

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

This.

I’ve now got 8 implants, two of which also required a bone graft as part of the treatment.

Crikey. You’re not helping me with my decision making.

 

[Bakero]

On the last couple of days of my South American/Antarctica trip an always troublesome lower double tooth finally gave up the ghost. Bits of tooth and amalgam were everywhere and I was left with a couple of jagged peaks and a gaping hole I could plant seeds in. Back in Spain after 3 uncomfortable days I visited my local dentist more in hope rather than expectations. After all the tooth had had so much drilling and filling over the past 50 years or so I thought it a hopeless case. Dreading the thought of dentures or a permanent blank I entered his surgery where after a quick look said 'no problems, I need a 60 minute period to sort you out'. Well 2 days later I entered cabin 3, invited into the chair that was then lowered so my head was below horizontal. A rather attractive dental nurse then dimmed the lights, positioned her bosom against my head and started using this magic wand (that's all I can think to describe it) tracing over all of my teeth, inside, outside and finally the surface. When she had finished the lights went back up along with the chair and I was able to turn to see a full colour view of my mouth on the computer screen. The dentist then came back in to view the image, they could turn the image always round on the screen. Happy with this they then went to a drawer and removed what looked like a whitish coloured little brick. The dentist offered this to the gaping space and said 'yes'. He then drilled a couple of areas of the shards that remained and then the magic started. This little whitish block was then placed into a machine that was situated at the side of me, it started and there was my tooth being made right in front of me. An incredible machine with all these tiny diamond tipped heads, water spraying all whirring around for the next 15 minutes. Its computerised machine apparently even caters for the 'bite' of the tooth above so the fit is guaranteed. When it was finished he offered it up to my mouth, placed in position and said 'bite'. perfect fit - so then it was into a connecting machine that then proceeded to take the next 10 minutes 'baking' the tooth so the colour was exactly the same as the rest matched with the computer image.

Was I impressed? You bet I was. The total time for the whole procedure was 80 minutes, none of moulds to be taken and sent away with an approximate colour match and waiting a couple of weeks whilst attempting to retain a temporary tooth in position. The total cost? Well x-rays, the above procedure plus a white filling at the same time and a full clean.......320 euros. I did shot a short video of it but know not how to upload it or even if it's possible.

Spanish dentistry is top notch in my experience. High quality and reasonably priced.

 

[Mr Putdown]

Crikey. You’re not helping me with my decision making.

I don't regret it one bit, the oldest have been in place for 20 years now with absolutely no issues at all.

 

[perseus]

I don't regret it one bit, the oldest have been in place for 20 years now with absolutely no issues at all.

Trouble with front teeth crowns after 50 years. Issues every 5 years. Now a horrid denture.

 

[Mr Putdown]

Trouble with front teeth crowns after 50 years. Issues every 5 years. Now a horrid denture.

My front teeth are thankfully still my own, but it’s implants I’ve had, not crowns.

I feel for you, I hate the idea of dentures.

 

[Shropshire Seagull]

I had wobbly upper right 1 & 2 + left 1 [fronts] and others were becoming loose as my gums receded as also did the jaw bone around the roots of my teeth - mostly type 1 diabetes to blame but also some poor oral hygiene technique.

Then I took a cricket ball bang on the kisser 5 years ago made those top three all too loose and unsalvageable [my dentist did try].
I hunted around for an implantologist with good prices and reviews. I was recommended PerfectProfiles where they had two UK branches [Luton & Wolverhampton] - they use Hungarian dentists.

I felt I was well looked after - from first visit to last was 12 months [5 visits] during 2016.

The 3 implants were £2,177 and the cricket club insurance contributed £1,500.

I was given a temporary denture while my gums and implant pegs settled and I found this contraption the worst experience. I can now bite and nibble things like apples and chicken wings that my previously wobbly nashers could never entertain.

Our NCS resident dentistry expert who also gave me some great advice is @driller

 

[Horses Arse]

I have a couple of extractions/gaps at the back which I have got by quite easily with/without. I have now been advised I have another tooth which might need extraction in a few years if I’m unlucky. Three is too many gaps; if this goes then I will investigate implants.

I did think about implants a few years ago but was put off by the sheer brutality of it.

It's OK, not too bad but you need to look after them. Interdental brushing and flossing to avoid build up around the underside.

 

[Drpepper]

I know someone who has just finished invisalign treatment and the results are incredible. He had very crowded teeth and now it genuinely looks like he has a brand new set of gnashers. If you search up some of the before and afters you wouldnt think its possible.
I believe it doesnt come cheap though

 

[Blue3]

Apologies for not having posted this earlier

Harry I hoping that video would never surface as I am out of that game now, only ever practicing on my own or friends and never for money.
But Harry I want you to know I could regard you as a friend should you need some nighttime dentistry

 

[Blue3]

Genuinely I know someone who has just gone to Albania to have all his remaining teeth removed and a full set of implants fitted he said to me it cost £6,000 including flights hotel dental work and soup
He said the same work here he was quoted £30,000 just for the implants

 

[driller]

Getting it done over seas can work out cheaper so that’s great but
The problem with overseas dentistry is what happens if it goes wrong?

implants cannot be done in one visit.
As a general rule ( but not exclusive)
Extract tooth - need to wait 3 months for socket/ bone to heal. ( same as broken leg bone takes 3 months to heal ) if rushed it will fail.
After 3 months need Ct scan to check bone in 3 dimensions
Then place implant
Wait another 3 months for it to integrate if rushed it will fail.
Then finish with precision crown.
This takes a minimum of 6 visits - anything less and corners are likely to be being cut and failure rate will increase.
How can this be done on a 2 week holiday?

They often use cheap copy components that Uk dentist cannot recognise and so cannot work on. So if problems arise you are stuck

The leading implant companies we use charge a lot for the components and so do the high quality laboratories making the final work so it never comes cheap if done well. ( at our practice it really is not that profitable considering the time it takes to do in total and bills we have to pay )

Finally if it fails and there really is a high failure rate overseas (especially Turkey atm )
The nhs / hospital surgery departments will not touch it - this is absolute.
I tried to send one poor chap to teaching hospitals in London ( guys) because his Turkish implants were a real infection problem - they just bounced the referal within days saying we do not correct overseas problems.
Only life saving surgery done.

You really could end up paying a high biological price but you could also save a few quid. Your gamble I guess.