[Politics] OUT OF 10 how woke is NSC

[sydney]

They seem like perfectly good reasons to get a Cobb on with someone on a football messageboard, ya woke gammon, wishy washy Liberal Palace fan

OUCH .....JUST OUCH....

 

[sydney]

I said I don't think you're woke. Are you telling me that I'm wrong, and you are woke?

i was woke before it was trendy. surely being woke is being aware of injustices and general shit****erry by the ruling/ controlling classes against the person in the street and the manipulations of such persons to bite sideways or downwards rather than upwards.

 

[Greg Bobkin]

This isn't news to anyone, I know, but there are some VERY odd posters – and posts – on NSC.

Not sure how 'woke' that makes me, if at all, but there you go...

 

[sydney]

This isn't news to anyone, I know, but there are some VERY odd posters – and posts – on NSC.

Not sure how 'woke' that makes me, if at all, but there you go...

you don't need a comma before but dude....

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

In answer to the question, I would say NSC wasn't even remotely woke if we"re using [MENTION=4800]Tyrone Biggums[/MENTION]' very reasonable definition of the word. It is relatively left leaning though, no doubt.

I can understand why the OP asked the question. He's been pulled up so many time for cretinous drivel, he'd rather accuse everyone else of being woke than look at himself and think "on balance, that was a stupid insensitive thing to say"

I'd agree, NSC isn't very woke at all.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

would you know why the anti-woke are obssessed with trans people?

Plenty of people who would have once been considered left leaning are now considered right wing Nazis by the ultra woke.

This is the ridiculousness of these groups of people.

JK Rowling a perfect example.

Not sure people are obsessed with them, it's more when they try to bully regular people into believing what they believe.


They are the modern day versions of the Evangelists of the 60's/70's who tried to force everyone to believe and think like they do.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

Isn't that just a more accurate description? In the same way people talk about cow's milk but nobody (other than the odd weirdo) refers to it as "udder milk".

Less accurate. The mammary glands are located within the breast, the chest also contains the heart and lungs.

 

[The Clamp]

I find it intriguing that the people most obsessed with “woke” are the ones so vehemently against it. It seems to take up a lot of their lives.

I don’t pay much attention to any of it and it doesn’t seem to bother me much. Funny that.

 

[A1X]

Less accurate. The mammary glands are located within the breast, the chest also contains the heart and lungs.

All of which can be found on a human.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

All of which can be found on a human.

So easier to call it breast milk as the milk comes from the breasts. Literally zero reasons to change this.

 

[Simster]

I don't agree with some of what Tyrone Biggums has said down the years - his ludicrous take on Donald Trump in particular - but I don't see a single post of his on this thread that is remotely false. He's 100% spot on, IMO.

 

[Stato]

I have never met anyone who describes themselves as 'woke', or even uses the word (I do not 'know' the arsedribblers who use the word on NSC to mock people) . I think you just made that last bit up

Have a watch of the comedy series 'Nathan Barley'. It had advertising executives apoplectic over the foolish deployment of the wrong type of coffee machine. It is very amusing that those who dive in to accuse liberals of being offended on behalf of others are themselves offended by words not used by any real person, ever, except in jest

And remember, English is not the first language of Justin Trudeau. Just sayin' like.

You're right. It was a word used mainly in online sloganeering when first coined by the American left. People displaying perceived unawareness of the disadvantages suffered by others were encouraged to 'get woke'. It suffered the oft repeated mistake of left wing politics in haranguing people rather than trying to win them over.

As they often do, the right then adopted the word as a belittling stereotype that allowed them to attack the straw man rather than address the, usually valid, political points being raised. Its since become a common ad hominem that is used to dehumanize opponents in the culture wars. As a result, it is now seldom used by anybody to self identify.

The thing that always irritated me was the pointlessly incorrect usage of the past perfect tense instead of the present contiuous. The term should not be woke. It should be awake. However, I'm a middle class English white bloke, educated in the English education system, and should perhaps be more awake* to the fact that the standard idioms that comfort me are not the common vernacular of the rest of the world's English speaking peoples. Or as Reg D Hunter put it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ni5J_yXuWLk

Nathan Barley was a work of genius and I echo your encouragement to anybody who hasn't seen it to watch all of it. https://www.channel4.com/programmes/nathan-barley


*- Here was an opportunity for me to use 'woke' instead of 'awake'. I just couldn't do it. I'd feel like one of those posh people who insist on pronouncing foriegn language terms with an over-exaggerated accent.

 

[Simster]

not sure what your on about petal...insensitive ...?? on here ?? really??

My eyes tend to glaze over when I see your utterly crap poorly punctuated posts, which is why I'm late to reply.

I'm just pointing out that you're too thick and boorish to ever consider that YOU might have said something unreasonable. People like you who lack any self awareness will therefore point the finger at others, considering them to be "over sensitive" or "woke".

I'm not quite how highlighting this makes ME a "petal".

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

I find it intriguing that the people most obsessed with “woke” are the ones so vehemently against it. It seems to take up a lot of their lives.

I don’t pay much attention to any of it and it doesn’t seem to bother me much. Funny that.

I guess as example if you're a parent you might not want some strange person talking to your child about anything not related to their education, especially when it comes to things like sex and gender.

That's not the teachers job to discuss such things with children, that's the parents decision to make.

Maybe that's why many people rally against it.

 

[keaton]

I guess as example if you're a parent you might not want some strange person talking to your child about anything not related to their education, especially when it comes to things like sex and gender.

That's not the teachers job to discuss such things with children, that's the parents decision to make.

Maybe that's why many people rally against it.

Who is the "strange person" if not their teacher? Isn't learning about sex and gender part of their education? What is the issue with giving children knowledge (about something that one way or another will affect them)? Weren't you just decrying evangelical extremists a few posts ago?

 

[The Clamp]

I guess as example if you're a parent you might not want some strange person talking to your child about anything not related to their education, especially when it comes to things like sex and gender.

That's not the teachers job to discuss such things with children, that's the parents decision to make.

Maybe that's why many people rally against it.

Yeah. If that was really happening on any significant scale, you may have a point. It’s not though.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

Yeah. If that was really happening on any significant scale, you may have a point. It’s not though.

Maybe not in the UK, it's happening a lot in the US and as often happens trends that happen in the US tend to end up influencing other parts of the world.

Added if these teachers didn't post it all over social media then perhaps it would go unnoticed a lot more but they can't help but post it for all to see.


These are seriously creepy people to have around ones children.

 

[The Clamp]

Maybe not in the UK, it's happening a lot in the US and as often happens trends that happen in the US tend to end up influencing other parts of the world.

Added if these teachers didn't post it all over social media then perhaps it would go unnoticed a lot more but they can't help but post it for all to see.


These are seriously creepy people to have around ones children.

Do you have sources for this assertion? Figures etc?

I’m more concerned with the religious right teaching kids abortion is evil and believing in evolution will land you in a lake of fire for eternity.

But yeah, genuinely interested if you have evidence to back up your statements?

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

Who is the "strange person" if not their teacher? Isn't learning about sex and gender part of their education? What is the issue with giving children knowledge (about something that one way or another will affect them)? Weren't you just decrying evangelical extremists a few posts ago?

Not when the children and kindergarten to early primary school ages.

You'd have to be some strange creeper to want to talk about such thing with young children who aren't your children.


The irony is that for a while there was a push to stop sexualising children. Now this new movement takes glee in sexualising children at such young ages.

Nobody would want Evangelists as teachers pushing their beliefs in schools on children, imagine the outcry if there was. So why would it be acceptable for anyone to push their sexual views to the same children? Because they are going well beyond talking about these subjects from a biological point of view.

 

[The Clamp]

Not when the children and kindergarten to early primary school ages.

You'd have to be some strange creeper to want to talk about such thing with young children who aren't your children.


The irony is that for a while there was a push to stop sexualising children. Now this new movement takes glee in sexualising children at such young ages.

Nobody would want Evangelists as teachers pushing their beliefs in schools on children, imagine the outcry if there was. So why would it be acceptable for anyone to push their sexual views to the same children? Because they are going well beyond talking about these subjects from a biological point of view.

All sounds suspiciously like something people like you believe is happening everywhere but turns out to be a few isolated anomalies that get rectified quickly.