Cowfold Seagull
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Oh yes l've heard of him.£88m Jude Bellingham?
Oh yes l've heard of him.£88m Jude Bellingham?
Kevin Keegan. Big success over thereSurprisingly few decent Germans have played in the Premier League. But then again why would they when they can stay at home and play at the highest level too? I wonder how many Englishmen have played in Germany and what their goalscoring record is like in comparison.
It seems the most famous is Owen Hargreaves, and before 2017 there wasn't too many Englishman making the move to Germany at all.
Of course, l forgot all about King Kev. even our very own Mark McGhee had a spell at Hamburg in his playing days.Kevin Keegan. Big success over there
Aye you must be more youthful than many of us @GingerBeerMan(although GB seemed much more popular in my youth) - Keegan was deffo the trailblazer. When he went to Hamburg it was a bit of a shock and he did brilliantly before becoming a Geordie legend. He wasn’t the most naturally gifted footballer but his energy, industry and charisma ensured he became more successful than most. He too would probably have outjumped BDB!Surprisingly few decent Germans have played in the Premier League. But then again why would they when they can stay at home and play at the highest level too? I wonder how many Englishmen have played in Germany and what their goalscoring record is like in comparison.
It seems the most famous is Owen Hargreaves, and before 2017 there wasn't too many Englishman making the move to Germany at all.
We made them KingsLord with a CAPITAL L please.
Lord Pascal Gross.
Can a German be made a Lord?
A little harsh…Thanks for letting us know, Fits.
Happy birthday Pascal, die Legende.
Thanks!Happy birthday you legend.
Kevin KeeganSurprisingly few decent Germans have played in the Premier League. But then again why would they when they can stay at home and play at the highest level too? I wonder how many Englishmen have played in Germany and what their goalscoring record is like in comparison.
It seems the most famous is Owen Hargreaves, and before 2017 there wasn't too many Englishman making the move to Germany at all.
Good points, but that was before football was officially invented.I'd say the most famous was Keegan. He was the biggest name in English football at the time and his going to Hamburg was major news.
Tony Woodcock was pretty well-known too.
The Top Flight Time Machine look at Keegan ("The Keegan Odyssey") over 42 parts is incredible as an insight into his life (and full of very puerile, juvenile humour). There's even an 8 part Keegan Hamburg Odyssey they do: https://music.amazon.com/search/keegan+odyssey/episodes?filter=IsLibrary|false&sc=noneAye you must be more youthful than many of us @GingerBeerMan(although GB seemed much more popular in my youth) - Keegan was deffo the trailblazer. When he went to Hamburg it was a bit of a shock and he did brilliantly before becoming a Geordie legend. He wasn’t the most naturally gifted footballer but his energy, industry and charisma ensured he became more successful than most. He too would probably have outjumped BDB!
Sancho, Bellingham...Surprisingly few decent Germans have played in the Premier League. But then again why would they when they can stay at home and play at the highest level too? I wonder how many Englishmen have played in Germany and what their goalscoring record is like in comparison.
It seems the most famous is Owen Hargreaves, and before 2017 there wasn't too many Englishman making the move to Germany at all.
Not many English players go anywhere outside England to playSurprisingly few decent Germans have played in the Premier League. But then again why would they when they can stay at home and play at the highest level too? I wonder how many Englishmen have played in Germany and what their goalscoring record is like in comparison.
It seems the most famous is Owen Hargreaves, and before 2017 there wasn't too many Englishman making the move to Germany at all.
Yes, noted in the "before 2017 there wasn't too many Englishmen making the move to Germany at all". But thanks for your input.Sancho, Bellingham...
Yes, indeed this was before my time! I wonder who the top scoring Englishman is Germany is, I suspect it's Bellingham based on being there a bit longer than most.Aye you must be more youthful than many of us @GingerBeerMan(although GB seemed much more popular in my youth) - Keegan was deffo the trailblazer. When he went to Hamburg it was a bit of a shock and he did brilliantly before becoming a Geordie legend. He wasn’t the most naturally gifted footballer but his energy, industry and charisma ensured he became more successful than most. He too would probably have outjumped BDB!
Considerably less money and prestige in the German league, simple as that.Yes, indeed this was before my time! I wonder who the top scoring Englishman is Germany is, I suspect it's Bellingham based on being there a bit longer than most.
While Spain have had a few high profile English players I can't really recall any that went to Germany, I'm just wondering why it seems to be a less popular destination.
Sancho, with 38. Keegan second with 32Yes, indeed this was before my time! I wonder who the top scoring Englishman is Germany is, I suspect it's Bellingham based on being there a bit longer than most.
While Spain have had a few high profile English players I can't really recall any that went to Germany, I'm just wondering why it seems to be a less popular destination.
If the Greek national league suddenly paid as much more than everybody else as the Premier League does now, then there'd be loads of English footballers turning out in the Greek league.Considerably less money and prestige in the German league, simple as that.
You do know who the manager of the Greek national team is?If the Greek national league suddenly paid as much more than everybody else as the Premier League does now, then there'd be loads of English footballers turning out in the Greek league.
As it happens, that's not the case, so most of them play here still.