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[Football] OAP Concessions







Husty

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Oct 18, 2008
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Another myth - some OAPs may have final salary pensions - millions don't.

Many rely on the State Pension.
Not a 'Myth' though is it.... That would imply that literally no OAPs are well off. We know for a fact that's simply untrue. Millions upon millions of them are very, very wealthy. A healthy majority of the over 65s at this point are...

Just because SOME aren't, doesn't render my first paragraph untrue in any way.

Here's the official word on this;


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Total household wealth of the over 65s is second only to the over 55s! It is second in physical wealth, second in private pensions, first in net financial...

There is NOTHING in these graphs that indicates that OAPs as a category deserve a generous discount off football tickets. Especially for fans of South-East teams like Arsenal & Tottenham.
 
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Colonel Mustard

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Jun 18, 2023
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Meanwhile, in Germany…


Can't understand the 104 Euros claim. Frankly, it's a bit of a myth that German football is dirt cheap. I've been to Bayern several times. Standing tickets are never available but cost around 20 Euros a game. Seats are between 40 and 60 Euros from memory. A lot of clubs, Bayern, Dortmund, Frankfurt have season tickets nudging 1,000 Euros at the top level ie around the same as several pricey PL clubs. My ST at Freiburg from memory was about 550 Euros. A standing place was much cheaper and worked out about 15 a match. But individual seats were between 35 and 50 Euros.
 


Colonel Mustard

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Jun 18, 2023
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And this! Try being 18-30 in today’s world. Yoof has never had it harder in my view.
A massive generalisation. I was as poor as a church mouse too when I was between 18 and 30. I didn't earn the average national salary until I was nearly 40. Then, as with many people, I finally started to make decent progress in my career and earned enough in my 40s, 50s and 60s to retire last year with my finances in good shape. It's what happens to most 'professional' people. I sort turned a corner aged 40 when I realised I needed to up my game financially. Changed career and got myself sorted. That's what you have to do sometimes. Don't let life just happen to you -- be proactive and work out what you need to do.

Add in, for some of us, money that gets inherited from parents and other family members. In my case, a very decent 5-figure sum in total which I invested sensibly and will keep me in season tickets for as long as I'm able to get there. Not everyone has the good fortune to be left money, I agree, but my main point is that a lot of us who are now old and financially secure had very tough times too when we were in our teens, 20s and 30s. My advice is to get a nice big bit of paper, decide what you want to achieve, and then make a plan. So many of us just sit around moaning and hand-wringing. Instead of feeling sorry for yourself, take charge of your life.
 






portlock seagull

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Jul 28, 2003
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A massive generalisation. I was as poor as a church mouse too when I was between 18 and 30. I didn't earn the average national salary until I was nearly 40. Then, as with many people, I finally started to make decent progress in my career and earned enough in my 40s, 50s and 60s to retire last year with my finances in good shape. It's what happens to most 'professional' people. I sort turned a corner aged 40 when I realised I needed to up my game financially. Changed career and got myself sorted. That's what you have to do sometimes. Don't let life just happen to you -- be proactive and work out what you need to do.

Add in, for some of us, money that gets inherited from parents and other family members. In my case, a very decent 5-figure sum in total which I invested sensibly and will keep me in season tickets for as long as I'm able to get there. Not everyone has the good fortune to be left money, I agree, but my main point is that a lot of us who are now old and financially secure had very tough times too when we were in our teens, 20s and 30s. My advice is to get a nice big bit of paper, decide what you want to achieve, and then make a plan. So many of us just sit around moaning and hand-wringing. Instead of feeling sorry for yourself, take charge of your life.
I don’t and I don’t belong to that generation. I just recognise how hard it is. Plus you’re utterly outvoted on this by looks of. In fact you’re only one in thinking your way. Maybe if you put the shotgun down, stopped blowing your hunt bugle and asked the butler about life you might understand. Probably too busy ironing the lawn though aren’t you?!! How did the Parish AGM go btw…?
 








Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
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The Fatherland
Anyone in London over the age of 60 is almost certainly sitting on millions in assets and probably a large pension too. These clubs are smart enough to realise they do not need nor is there any logic in providing them a tasty discount.
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Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
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Can't understand the 104 Euros claim. Frankly, it's a bit of a myth that German football is dirt cheap. I've been to Bayern several times. Standing tickets are never available but cost around 20 Euros a game. Seats are between 40 and 60 Euros from memory. A lot of clubs, Bayern, Dortmund, Frankfurt have season tickets nudging 1,000 Euros at the top level ie around the same as several pricey PL clubs. My ST at Freiburg from memory was about 550 Euros. A standing place was much cheaper and worked out about 15 a match. But individual seats were between 35 and 50 Euros.
Firstly that quote is from a number of years ago. I have heard it before and it must be at the very least 5 years old.

“The cheapest standing-room tickets for SC Freiburg matches in the Bundesliga cost 165 euros. Ascending by category, it then becomes increasingly expensive in the seating area. A season ticket for full payers in the best category costs 779 euros.”

This is pretty reasonable. No idea what the cheapest AMEX season ticket is but the most expensive is 2350 pounds or 2700 euros….or 3.5 times that of Freiburg.
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
That's a very sweeping statement.

It's like saying:

Anyone in London over the age of 60 is almost certainly still paying council rent and living off a state pension too.
59% of over 65 own their own homes, just over half leaving others having to pay rent with their pension income. That’s a UK figure.
 




Nicks

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Firstly that quote is from a number of years ago. I have heard it before and it must be at the very least 5 years old.

“The cheapest standing-room tickets for SC Freiburg matches in the Bundesliga cost 165 euros. Ascending by category, it then becomes increasingly expensive in the seating area. A season ticket for full payers in the best category costs 779 euros.”

This is pretty reasonable. No idea what the cheapest AMEX season ticket is but the most expensive is 2350 pounds or 2700 euros….or 3.5 times that of Freiburg.
Cheapest Adult ST in the Amex is North Stand as an OAP.
I know because that's me now.
£405.00

Bargain
 
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Husty

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Oct 18, 2008
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59% of over 65 own their own homes, just over half leaving others having to pay rent with their pension income. That’s a UK figure.

Completely and utterly wrong. If you're looking at all over 65s, then ~75% own outright.

Again the ONS has the correct answer...


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