o/t dual citizenship: anyone know about pros/cons

[Raphael Meade]

i've been googling my way around the net for sometime, and not having much luck, trying to find out exactly what implications someone obtaining dual citizenship would encouter. does anyone have any knowledge of this area - i'm thinking with regards to paying tax/NI/social security, pensions, etc...

ta. raph.

 

[chemical brother]

Hey dude

I'm gonna be applying for Dutch citizenship in about ten years and it's complicated. I don't know about other countries but in Holland you have to have lived there for five years. Generally you have to renounce your original nationality (I will) but exceptions can be made for this, although they are complicated. In Holland, for example, your original nationality can be kept if renouncing it can result in "substantial financial disadvantages."

Assuming you are British, you could try ringing the Passport Services Advice Line on 0870 521 0410.

Hope that is of some use.

xx

 

[Italiaseagull]

My mate has dual Australian/British Citizenship and two passports. I don't think there are to many implications.

 

[Wilts]

I have a British passport but can also apply for German nationality as my birthplace is Hannover. Are there any bonuses to having both nationalities then? Can I really get 2 different passports?

 

[REDLAND]

You can go to Turkey and watch England play

 

[Italiaseagull]

Yes you can! My mate was born in Brisbane. Every time his Aussie passport expires he can get a new one! I'd recommend getting a German passport, you could get World Cup tickets a lot easier.

 

[Wozza]

My mate has dual Australian/British Citizenship and two passports. I don't think there are to many implications.

Amazing but true, dual nationality only became legal in Oz in April last year.

 

[Lord Bracknell]

A mate of mine has dual UK and French citizenship, having been born in Malaya (as it then was) to a British father and a French mother.

As far as he was concerned, the downside of this was the insistence of the French authorities that he served two years in the army - or stay out of France until he was old enough to be no more use to them.

His brother (who had the same dual nationality) opted to join the French army, despite not speaking any French at all. That caused them far more trouble than it caused him.

 

[perth seagull]

I'm a dual UK/Australian citizen with both passports. Living in Australia I enjoy all the normal benefits of being a citizen here (booze, beaches and stunning babes during the summer).

With the UK passport I can travel and work anywhere in the EU. There aren't any implications for me having dual citizenship.

 

[perth seagull]

Amazing but true, dual nationality only became legal in Oz in April last year.

I don't know where you heard this, I'm a UK citizen and became an Australian citizen in 1996. I think it has been around since the 1980s.

 

[Raphael Meade]

excellent... all sounds good so far. people started worrying me talking about both countries wanting tax/social security.

apart from that, i thought it would have the obvious benefits, as above, of living/working where you like

ta people for the help...

 

[Wozza]

I don't know where you heard this, I'm a UK citizen and became an Australian citizen in 1996. I think it has been around since the 1980s.

About a third of world's countries do not allow their citizens to have dual citizenship - and, until recently, Oz was one of them.

The change was front page news on the Sydney Morning Herald when I was there a couple of years back.

(Maybe it only applied to Aussies looking for a second citizenship, and not people from other countries becoming Australian?)

 

[perth seagull]

excellent... all sounds good so far. people started worrying me talking about both countries wanting tax/social security.

apart from that, i thought it would have the obvious benefits, as above, of living/working where you like

ta people for the help...

I don't know much about social security, but I assume you can only get it from the country in which you are a "resident for social security purposes".

As for tax, it depends on the country. Most countries have double taxing agreements, so you don't pay tax in both countries. Also, citizenship isn't an issue. Residency is more important for tax purposes. Generally, the country where you reside is the country that will tax you.

 

[perth seagull]

(Maybe it only applied to Aussies looking for a second citizenship, and not people from other countries becoming Australian?)

Yeah, I think you may be right there.

 

[Lady Bracknell]

The only way you could previously get dual citizenship was if your birth certificate had been registered at Canberra as well as in England - if you were born here to Australian parents, that is. Or, I believe if you had emigrated to Australia and gone through the citizenship process. I travelled on an Aussie passport as a kid and we needed visas to get into France. And travel in the EU is still not as straightforward on an Aussie passport.

I can now formally apply for dual citizenship and probably will - I'm also entitled to an Irish passport just to make things even more complicated - but you do need to prove your entitlement through descent.

 

[Lord Bracknell]

Glory hunter!

Roz kept all her options open during the 2002 World Cup, eventually ending up with a Brazilian flag draped over a Republic of Ireland shirt as she joined the victory parade through the streets of Barcelona.

 

[Lord Cornwallis]

My father is Dutch, my mother English, my sisters are duel nationality as they were both born in the UK. I have a Dutch passport as I was born there.
My Dad is now retired and living in Holland, but he gets a UK pension as well as a Dutch one after many years working in England.
Don't know if this is the slightest bit relevant. He always remained a Dutch citizen.