For something that's 'bleeding to death', it seems extraordinarily healthy. TV figures 'nosediving' is a huge exaggeration and takes no account of the worldwide interest in the Premier League. The media attention is driven by a demand for one of the most successful exports this country has ever created. I'm not a huge fan of the 'corporate-ness' of football at the top level, but the sport was absolutely dying on its arse for most of the 1980s before the Premier League made it an attractive enough package to attract serious money. The good outweighs the bad overall. The fact that football itself has not held firm and channeled that money sensibly rather than pouring it into the pockets of agents and players is the problem. If I give you £100 and you spunk the lot on champagne, is that my fault?
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For something that's 'bleeding to death', it seems extraordinarily healthy. TV figures 'nosediving' is a huge exaggeration and takes no account of the worldwide interest in the Premier League. The media attention is driven by a demand for one of the most successful exports this country has ever created. I'm not a huge fan of the 'corporate-ness' of football at the top level, but the sport was absolutely dying on its arse for most of the 1980s before the Premier League made it an attractive enough package to attract serious money. The good outweighs the bad overall. The fact that football itself has not held firm and channeled that money sensibly rather than pouring it into the pockets of agents and players is the problem. If I give you £100 and you spunk the lot on champagne, is that my fault?
Knotty
Well-known member
It's still BHA in 90 minutes of football on a piece of grass. That does it for me.
As for all the peripheral stuff, I'll choose what interests me and ignore the rest.
We all have control of the on/off button of our TVs, etc.
Not naive, I think those are admirable sentiments and I too hope we stay up due to our own efforts - but seeing our rivals lose will play a part. You might just have to hold your nose.
At the start of the day I definitely felt like you, then it was like: "Ha ha, Burnley are three up at Chelsea! ....... Oh shit, Burnley are three up at Chelsea!"
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- Aug 8, 2005
- 27,246
I've been surprised at quite how big it is. The media attention is never ending.
I've also firmed up my view that the money tree can not possibly go on forever and a big crash at some point is inevitable. At that stage some big clubs may go under, some other clubs may benefit. I hope we are in the latter.
I've also firmed up my view that the money tree can not possibly go on forever and a big crash at some point is inevitable. At that stage some big clubs may go under, some other clubs may benefit. I hope we are in the latter.
Charlies Shinpad
New member
Still hasn't sunk that we are Premier League
I looked at Saturday as a FA Cup game and I reckon it will take a few more home games before it does sink in as it's been so long since we seen top teams every week playing us
I looked at Saturday as a FA Cup game and I reckon it will take a few more home games before it does sink in as it's been so long since we seen top teams every week playing us
- Jan 3, 2012
- 17,361
I have some sympathy with the "don't want the minnows to win" idea, which has changed, but nothing else has.
The idea of the Premier league as a closed shop is awful........ whether we were in it or not.
- Jan 3, 2012
- 17,361
It hit me on Saturday morning looking at the match preview in the paper, with the Man City team having such names as Silva, De Bruyne, Aguero, Jesus, Kompany......
I know all the others get the real plaudits, but I rate Kompany extremely highly....... but he is getting a bit old.
Icy Gull
Back on the rollercoaster
- Jul 5, 2003
- 72,015
There are so many clubs that I don't see as Premier League though
Bournemouth, Palace, Burnley, Huddersfield, Stoke and West Brom ( yes I know they've been there for years), Watford, Swansea and Leicester.
So many, what I consider bigger clubs, in the Championship.
The big six games will be special though, with absolutely no expectation. Once we have our striker situation sorted and the new players bedded in, we may surprise a few.
Taybha
Whalewhine
It's a lot easier getting in and out of the ground and there's no queuing to get in Dicks anymore which is amazing .
studio150
Well-known member
Don't like the idea of a closed shop at all, but I believe that we will effectively get that, as a PL2 is established. Possibly with 2 PL divisions of 18 teams to reduce games to 34 all at weekend with all cup games midweek.
Perkino
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- Dec 11, 2009
- 6,053
I did feel some disappointment on Saturday with the results that went in favour of other teams likely to struggle to get to 50 points this season. Am happy to see the top 6 win each of their games especially against the bottom 5 or 6 sides.
Changing the closure of the transfer window won't help newly promoted sides like us as we currently get a few matches to take a decent look at our squad. Also the rest of Europe closes at the end of Aug and giving them extra time to establish their squads will surely give them an advantage.
Changing the closure of the transfer window won't help newly promoted sides like us as we currently get a few matches to take a decent look at our squad. Also the rest of Europe closes at the end of Aug and giving them extra time to establish their squads will surely give them an advantage.
As far as I can remember, the Premier League stance on relegation has always been unwavering - that it is an essential part of our game, and thankfully they appear to fully understand that having a competitive league is absolutely pivotal to its appeal worldwide. Of course, it could be a lot more competitive - but having even 6 clubs vying for honours at the top is a triumph compared to pretty much every other country. The big clubs would love to keep all the money for themselves so we're lucky the current set-up has been so successful financially as it's staved off a breakaway for the last 25 years. End the principle of joint TV rights and the current inequality would become a chasm. Those that talk about doing away with relegation tend to be the clubs, not the League itself. Bolton and Stoke spring to mind in the past, hoping to pull up the drawbridge and protect their positions.
Fair enough but Sky must be worried by a 30% drop in viewing figures last year. BT also reported miniscule numbers for CL which suggests it might not be just prem - it could be tv football in general not resonating anymore. If (when) it wobbles a lot of clubs will be screwed.
No. You turn if you want to. The lady's not for turning.
Football would be dead to me if that happened.
Brok
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- Dec 26, 2011
- 4,373
Yes 0-0 would have been much better for us, but Palace getting stuffed at home by the "underdogs" put a much bigger smile on my face than a draw would have done.
You'd hope so, but the FA are worthless *****. What's more likely, is that we'll all go on a march. I'd hope that thousands of fans from all clubs would descend on London. I'm raring to go at the thought of it. Been a while since we had a good march.
Yeah that was a bit weird
Greg Bobkin
Silver Seagull
- May 22, 2012
- 16,079
Knowing roughly where you were I was almost going to send you a message to find out who was at that desk and why they had a PL trophy there. I couldn't quite figure out who they were (was it NBC Sports) – maybe that explains my 'confused' look from the TV coverage
Totally agree with it being surreal – it many ways they were small changes, but also it was a million miles away from life in the Championship. I've watched the first half back so far – plenty of room for optimism, for me. Especially with Propper. I know he's had a pasting for giving the ball away, but he made a couple of decent runs on the rare occasion he got the ball and managed to keep hold of it.
Knowing roughly where you were I was almost going to send you a message to find out who was at that desk and why they had a PL trophy there. I couldn't quite figure out who they were (was it NBC Sports) – maybe that explains my 'confused' look from the TV coverage
Totally agree with it being surreal – it many ways they were small changes, but also it was a million miles away from life in the Championship. I've watched the first half back so far – plenty of room for optimism, for me. Especially with Propper. I know he's had a pasting for giving the ball away, but he made a couple of decent runs on the rare occasion he got the ball and managed to keep hold of it.
It was Graham Le Saux - he summarises/presents for NBC. Lampard and Gerrard were also there (down near the SWC I think with the BT setup), as was Hoddle (presumably in the multifaith prayer room [emoji23])
Horrible grainy pic from my phone but you can see Le Saux on the far left.
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