seagull_in_malaysia
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It cannot seriously cost 4,000 pounds a year to commute to London, can it? That is insane.
No trains Brighton - Haywards Heath
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It cannot seriously cost 4,000 pounds a year to commute to London, can it? That is insane.
6:49 from reigate, arrived London Bridge at 9:10. Never seen an instruction that the "train is full" & an instruction that nobody is to board the train. At Redhill as we all ran after a train that was heading towards the end of the station but it then kept going past. The announcement was "Sorry, we thought that train woudl stop here!"
Given how often they fail, I would suggest replacing them with reliable alternatives which don't fail. Basic product design, make things that work and then test them thoroughly.
I have always assumed they just have a bloke with a flag near Gatwick given how slowly the trains seem to go through there.
British Bulldog
The great escape
- Feb 6, 2006
- 10,974
What shareholders?
I got the 7:40 from Reigate, with a view to changing at East Croydon for London Victoria. However, the train was stuck at Redhill for so long that I swapped over there for the 8:02 to London Victoria (which itself arrived 10 mins late). That was a bad move. We sat at Redhill for ANOTHER 30 mins whilst they tried to find a driver for that one.
vegster
Sanity Clause
- May 5, 2008
- 28,272
It's all down to money, the government does not want to pay for the infrastructure ( although the rail companies still get their subsidies) and the rail operators will say why should we pay when we only buy a franchise for a fixed term of years. The rail operators also have to keep shareholders happy too. All in all a hotchpotch of different agendas combine to cause chaos.
Unfortunately, the only way to fix the problem is to throw money at it and neither side will blink first. I fear we are stuck with this for eternity.
I got the 7:40 from Reigate, with a view to changing at East Croydon for London Victoria. However, the train was stuck at Redhill for so long that I swapped over there for the 8:02 to London Victoria (which itself arrived 10 mins late). That was a bad move. We sat at Redhill for ANOTHER 30 mins whilst they tried to find a driver for that one.
Did you not volunteer? It can't be that hard to drive a train at 15mph.
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Hotchilidog
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- Jan 24, 2009
- 9,120
You are of course absolutely right. Tightfisted incompetence rules the day. I cannot see this changing in the near future either. Reading Gatwick line now plagued by poor rail conditions so the journey home is already looking bleak before I get to the mess that is the Brighton mainline.
The people responsible for this at network rail, in government and at the train companies should be embarrassed that this is how they run a network in the 21st century.
pasty
A different kind of pasty
Nearly £5K actually if you need the undergound as well
Tricky Dicky
New member
£4,284 currently - without tube. Will be more in 6 weeks.
Train prices are insane.
To be perfectly honest the people responsible are those who built the railway in the first place-obviously they couldn't have foreseen the future but if you were starting from scratch now you'd build double decker trains, larger tunnels, more overflow lines, longer platforms etc etc plus Beechings cuts made things worse. Now money, infrastructure and nimbys means you can only trouble shoot. And when a brand new line is proposed in HS2 everyone comes out of the woodwork to protest and tell us its too expensive.
British Bulldog
The great escape
- Feb 6, 2006
- 10,974
All designs of equipment are thoroughly tested before they're used on the railway but given the vast amount of equipment involved and the amount of use it gets it stands to reason that a very small amount will fail from time to time.
Tricky Dicky
New member
I've said it before, in about 50 years we went from learning to fly to landing on the moon. In 25 years my rail service has just gone backwards !
vegster
Sanity Clause
- May 5, 2008
- 28,272
This is pretty spot on but its not just the rail network it is almost across the board. The road network is not really fit for a mobile society that has a huge workforce on the move every day combined with massive food and commodity transport. Our airports are bursting at the seams with the huge amounts of flights that need to be accommodated. To cap it all our sewerage system is running at almost maximum in some places. so overall, we really are in the s***.
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
- 36,014
is that not our fault for adopting daft work/living patterns though? we want nice largeish semi with a garden, thats not too expensive or near the "bad" estates. but work is in the centre of town or in industrial parks on the edge. so we have to commute, or change massive social mindset. and the airports are not bursting at the seams, one airport would like to tell you that to suit their agenda.
Cowfold Seagull
Fan of the 17 bus
Parking at Gatters must have cost you an arm and a leg!
hoveboyslim
Well-known member
Trains are still being cancelled. A complete shambles.
grummitts gloves
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Probably about £20 odd quid. Had to get to work today though and couldnt face the potential chaos at Haywards Heath.
As long as they are sorry then thats OK
Wonder how many thousands of people late to work today.
Service the last month has been up there with worst I've known and apart from a storm , weather been good.
No longer even get apologies if less than 10 mins.
One plus side is you never see a ticket collector when delayed. They go into hiding
Faceless crime.
Wonder how many thousands of people late to work today.
Service the last month has been up there with worst I've known and apart from a storm , weather been good.
No longer even get apologies if less than 10 mins.
One plus side is you never see a ticket collector when delayed. They go into hiding
Faceless crime.