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Arthritic Toe

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Nov 25, 2005
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Swindon
It’s weird isn’t it. Generally, the usual ‘9pm’ dramas on bbc tend to be excellent. Often gripping, tense, award-worthy. Every now and then though they throw in an absolute turkey like this one. Really makes you wonder what sort of selection panel these things go before when they're presented.
 










jackalbion

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Aug 30, 2011
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Saw some of episode 1 but Mrs DCH watched the rest without me as I spent most of the time picking holes in the setup, not least channeling my inner @jackalbion by pointing out that the Gatwick Express kept switching from the outside shots of the real one to a red version of some variation of those horrible 3 car trains we had to Falmer until recently.
I watched one episode and pointed out so many plotholes from an operational point of view I was told to leave the room.
 


Brovion

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Jul 6, 2003
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I watched one episode and pointed out so many plotholes from an operational point of view I was told to leave the room.
We were going to watch it on catch-up as our one of our neighbours said it was good. However having read the reviews it seems to have been almost universally panned - not just on here. (There is way too much good stuff to waste time watching something that seems such an obvious turkey).

Amongst all the other dramatic criticisms one point that came up whilst I 'did my own research' (as they say) which perhaps you can answer is: why didn't they just switch off the power?
 


El Presidente

The ONLY Gay in Brighton
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Jul 5, 2003
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Pattknull med Haksprut
I thought European Cumbath 27 was the worst thing I’d ever seen, poor dialogue, a laughable script (why would a firm send SEVEN plumbers to help a housewife dressed in latex to fix a dripping tap?) and a very predictable and messy climax, but this is even worse.
 






jackalbion

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Aug 30, 2011
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We were going to watch it on catch-up as our one of our neighbours said it was good. However having read the reviews it seems to have been almost universally panned - not just on here. (There is way too much good stuff to waste time watching something that seems such an obvious turkey).

Amongst all the other dramatic criticisms one point that came up whilst I 'did my own research' (as they say) which perhaps you can answer is: why didn't they just switch off the power?
They could have switched it off from the mainframe similar to when there is a trespasser, they could have used the emergency stop protocol on another train, also the train would have never departed when the bag got caught in the door at the beginning as Dispatch wouldn't have let it go. It was all a load of NONSENSE. Unsurprised to see the writer is the same writer for HOLLYOAKS.
 


The Clamp

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Jan 11, 2016
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Watched all six back to back, not quite as shocking as Vigil but close, i’m afraid we’ve been spoiled by the high end streaming content of Prime, Netflix, Paramount et al and regrettably the traditional British Channels will never match, currently i’m absolutely hating Grace, I thought the second season of Sherwood was tosh, the list is endless, maybe they should all stick to documentary’s and light entertainment and leave the drama to the big boys, you just know any fresh attempt on Line of Duty will be a shit as Trigger point
Reminds me of when TV tried to cash in on James Bond / Bourne type cinema thrillers with …. Ultimate Force. Starring Ross Kemp.

One particular attempt to rip off the crane chase from Casino Royale was astonishingly bad.


He’s mean. He’s tough. He’s…irresistible. Apparently.

Trigger warning; shows Ross Kemp getting rectal exam. I wish I was joking.

 




Nitram

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Jul 16, 2013
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Magnificent tosh, almost comedic script, entertainment at its best thoroughly enjoyed it. Dissecting this is almost as pointless as doing the same with Die Hard.
 


Stuart Munday

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Jul 6, 2003
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Saltdean
When the armed police were searching the train the little boy said there is nobody else here so they believed him and turned around, the head of cyber security not only used the Gatwick Express wifi to give classified instructions there was a hen party in the same carriage and she couldn't hear properly, why didn't she move to the next one. Poor script, poor acting, miscast characters, rediculous story but I keep going back for more.
 


Hotchilidog

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Jan 24, 2009
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When the armed police were searching the train the little boy said there is nobody else here so they believed him and turned around, the head of cyber security not only used the Gatwick Express wifi to give classified instructions there was a hen party in the same carriage and she couldn't hear properly, why didn't she move to the next one. Poor script, poor acting, miscast characters, rediculous story but I keep going back for more.
All of the above. Objectively this show was garbage, BUT, I just had to see how it played out. Once I stopped caring about the quality of it I just went along for the ride.
 




Official Old Man

Uckfield Seagull
Aug 27, 2011
9,092
Brighton
ENDING SPOILER ALERT
I know many of you are eager to know how many inches from the end of the line/buffers the train got to before stopping.
So here is the final few minutes summed up.
The train is on a destination of Victoria, which happens to be the home of the cyber crime unit. If it crashes it will wipe out the entire building.
They take back control of the train and have a computer on board to control it. By chance they also have a driver amongst the passengers. He sits at the computer, and promptly dies, smashing his head on the screen making it useless. They are just passing through Slough.
The cyber building is evacuated, except our brave girl and a guy.
Brainwave, if we turn the lights to red the train will automatically stop. Minutes to spare our hero girl runs to a lift to go down 9 levels (she is scared of lifts! oh she is so brave)
She runs along Victoria platform to a signal and, by luck, has a gadget to change the lights to red but can she do it in time.
The train, doing 100mph is seen in the distance.
Tense moments.
More tense moments
Train getting very close
Getting tense
It's gone red Hurrah.
Train goes through red light and slams on brakes.
There are flames, smoke, dust and screams.
There is the end of the track, will it stop?
Yes, of course, with inches to spare.
Standby for happy ending.
Hero on train and hero cyber girl stand opposite each other on platform.
Missed the rest, I was being sick in the toilet. All too much for me. My nerves are shredded.
PS whole family loved the
Wait until series two - The Bus Replacement Series
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Chicken Run

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Jul 17, 2003
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Valley of Hangleton
Reminds me of when TV tried to cash in on James Bond / Bourne type cinema thrillers with …. Ultimate Force. Starring Ross Kemp.

One particular attempt to rip off the crane chase from Casino Royale was astonishingly bad.


He’s mean. He’s tough. He’s…irresistible. Apparently.

Trigger warning; shows Ross Kemp getting rectal exam. I wish I was joking.


Totally agree, seems our terrestrial channel’s these days spend too much time worrying they have covered off every minority group than putting decent relevant scripts together
 


jackalbion

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Aug 30, 2011
4,913
Reminds me of when TV tried to cash in on James Bond / Bourne type cinema thrillers with …. Ultimate Force. Starring Ross Kemp.

One particular attempt to rip off the crane chase from Casino Royale was astonishingly bad.


He’s mean. He’s tough. He’s…irresistible. Apparently.

Trigger warning; shows Ross Kemp getting rectal exam. I wish I was joking.


Where can I find said clip of rectal exam?
 




Nobby Cybergoat

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Jul 19, 2021
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Totally agree, seems our terrestrial channel’s these days spend too much time worrying they have covered off every minority group than putting decent relevant scripts together
I mean, you can do both right? You can have a representative cast, which is plausible because it's set in a country with people originally from a lot of different places and you can have good scripts and casting. It's not one or the other

The wider question here is about the standard of terrestrial TV output. Are they losing too much talent to Apple, HBO, Disney, Amazon?
 


Iggle Piggle

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Sep 3, 2010
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I mean, you can do both right? You can have a representative cast, which is plausible because it's set in a country with people originally from a lot of different places and you can have good scripts and casting. It's not one or the other

The wider question here is about the standard of terrestrial TV output. Are they losing too much talent to Apple, HBO, Disney, Amazon?
You can do both but the problem is that in a lot of cases - BBC and Disney being the worst culprits - that the talentless screen writers believe that representation is more important than storytelling. Slow horses , for example, has both. Fallout likewise. Modern day Star wars is representative alright but the storytelling is largely dog shit. I thought the South Park episode about the "Panderverse" did a fantastic job of taking the piss out of both sides of that debate.

Until the storytelling and character development is prioritised over and above everything else, we will continue to be served up "content" that is just a bunch of character tropes served up as an inconsistent story. That problem is from terrestrial through to the major streaming companies.
 


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