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[News] Nigel Farage and Reform



Mellotron

I've asked for soup
Jul 2, 2008
32,468
Brighton
Reform are polls apart from those scum, it's typical of the wide eyed far left to confuse these things.
Do you really think the same people won't attach themselves again, exactly as they did with the BNP, with UKIP, and with whatever Reform will be called next time Farage needs to grift?
 




Stato

Well-known member
Dec 21, 2011
7,366
You will always get some people who don't understand where reform sit, they are right of centre not far right. Unfortunately it's the far left that are just as guilty in not understanding where reform are positioned.

Sorry but if you chuck me a handful of links, I won't respond, way too much reading for a dyslexic.
Okay. In short: There is a long recorded history of racism, bigotry and fascists in Reform and UKIP before it. You know that without the links. Farage consistently minimises and refuses to tackle the issue. It doesn't wash. Reform has a fascist problem and it needs to address it.
 


Mellotron

I've asked for soup
Jul 2, 2008
32,468
Brighton
It is SPECTACULARLY naive to think Reform won't end up with the same exact issues as the BNP, UKIP, Brexit Party, whatever other parties Nigel had. I lose track.

Any bets on what the next one will be called?

Heritage Party already taken. Tradition Party doesn't scan. Hmm.
 


kevo

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Mar 8, 2008
9,800
I see the far left as wide eyed, frightened to death of their own shadow , and dramatising in tiny issues, that's just as I picture them, just stop oil protesters seem pretty typical of theire look and actions.
'Far left' lol. There is no 'far left' in this country. You're pathetic.
 


BadFish

Huge Member
Oct 19, 2003
18,194
It is SPECTACULARLY naive to think Reform won't end up with the same exact issues as the BNP, UKIP, Brexit Party, whatever other parties Nigel had. I lose track.

Any bets on what the next one will be called?

Heritage Party already taken. Tradition Party doesn't scan. Hmm.

Pity party?
 




jcdenton08

Offended Liver Sausage
NSC Patron
Oct 17, 2008
14,498
'Far left' lol. There is no 'far left' in this country. You're pathetic.
Oh there are lots of people who hold far left views though, there’s just no far left option in the ballot papers because they are a small minority relative to most people who sit somewhere in the middle. But they absolutely exist, and I can tell you everything is politics with them.

My issue is a lot of people don’t know what far left means, and equate it with “woke” social liberalism. In my experience people with hard left views usually hold quite the opposite opinion.

There is a fag paper between the far right and the far left on social issues.
 


Right Brain Ronnie

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Feb 20, 2023
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North of North
'Far left' lol. There is no 'far left' in this country. You're pathetic.
Clearly it's a hot day, and probably best to leave it to another day.
Where I draw the line for far left maybe a different point to where some will draw the line for the far right.
I see half a dozen sitting on the far left line on this board, I won't name them, but the anger is off the scale to anybody that are right of centre.

I off have to have a magnum ice cream.👍
 


BadFish

Huge Member
Oct 19, 2003
18,194
Clearly it's a hot day, and probably best to leave it to another day.
Where I draw the line for far left maybe a different point to where some will draw the line for the far right.
I see half a dozen sitting on the far left line on this board, I won't name them, but the anger is off the scale to anybody that are right of centre.

I off have to have a magnum ice cream.👍

I am not sure your perception is all that.

And no I am not discriminating against your dyslexia*.

Enjoy your magnum.

*alledged
 






Stato

Well-known member
Dec 21, 2011
7,366
I see half a dozen sitting on the far left line on this board, I won't name them, but the anger is off the scale to anybody that are right of centre.
Economically, I'd describe my views as far left, but I'm also a pragmatist. Politics is the art of compromise and you have to approach every issue with an understanding that nobody is going to exactly share your views.

I'm not angry about the rise of far right politics. I'm worried that the people attracted to it, like some on the far left, do not believe in compromise, they believe in power and in violence. That is scary. Look at how dissenting voices are treated by Putin. That needs to be wholly condemned, not palled up to and given in to like Farage and Trump suggest.

For anyone who has read 'The Remains of the Day' or seen the film, there are currently far too many Lord Darlington's around.
 


A1X

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NSC Patron
Sep 1, 2017
20,528
Deepest, darkest Sussex
'Far left' lol. There is no 'far left' in this country. You're pathetic.
I disagree, I would argue that the likes of Galloway and some of his hangers on can definitely be seen in that light. Fortunately, bar one aberration earlier this year which was corrected at the election, such individuals are a long way from any relevance.
 




vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,272
Okay. In short: There is a long recorded history of racism, bigotry and fascists in Reform and UKIP before it. You know that without the links. Farage consistently minimises and refuses to tackle the issue. It doesn't wash. Reform has a fascist problem and it needs to address it.
Farage can't and won't address the problem because that's his fanbase !
 


vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,272
Economically, I'd describe my views as far left, but I'm also a pragmatist. Politics is the art of compromise and you have to approach every issue with an understanding that nobody is going to exactly share your views.

I'm not angry about the rise of far right politics. I'm worried that the people attracted to it, like some on the far left, do not believe in compromise, they believe in power and in violence. That is scary. Look at how dissenting voices are treated by Putin. That needs to be wholly condemned, not palled up to and given in to like Farage and Trump suggest.

For anyone who has read 'The Remains of the Day' or seen the film, there are currently far too many Lord Darlington's around.
Brain Dead Ronnie is a clever one, he's sussed out six of us Lefties while contributing only 140 odd posts the the board !
 






Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
56,074
Faversham
It is SPECTACULARLY naive to think Reform won't end up with the same exact issues as the BNP, UKIP, Brexit Party, whatever other parties Nigel had. I lose track.

Any bets on what the next one will be called?

Heritage Party already taken. Tradition Party doesn't scan. Hmm.
It may well be the Capital Punishment party. Immigration and foringers is now a busted flush. He cannot hope to gain traction with a party exclusively populated by white people (mostly blokes). I recon he will chance his are on a referendum on Capital Punishment.

Perhaps he can call it the Justice party, Or the Revenege party. Or the EFAEAATFAT party Abbreviated to EFFAT? You can work out what that stands for.
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
56,074
Faversham
Brain Dead Ronnie is a clever one, he's sussed out six of us Lefties while contributing only 140 odd posts the the board !
Do you think there is a possibility he may have been on NSC before, under a different user name, and is gaslighting us with fake neurodiversity and idiot-savant rightwingery? For shits and giggles?

Well, best of luck lads and left wing lasses. I have consigned him to the ignore bin, aka Potty's potty.
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
56,074
Faversham
Brain Dead Ronnie is a clever one, he's sussed out six of us Lefties while contributing only 140 odd posts the the board !
Wrong brain Wrongie, please. :wink:
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Oct 8, 2003
56,074
Faversham
I disagree, I would argue that the likes of Galloway and some of his hangers on can definitely be seen in that light. Fortunately, bar one aberration earlier this year which was corrected at the election, such individuals are a long way from any relevance.
The traditional far left in the UK spent most of their time arguing the semantics of orthodoxy. They were constitutionally distant from the standard extreme right wing activities (from gaslighting through harassing Muslim women, to setting nail bombs). Thehard left's most vigorous activity was secondary picketing. A very long time sine we have seen any of that - since it was made illegal.

Gorgeous George has always been an iconoclast, cherry picking issues without any balance or coherence. My impression is that he is mainly some sort of Islamist these days. :shrug:
 
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