[Brighton] New Churchill Square vaccination centre opens today....and closes due to protesters

[Matt Penfold]

Or maybe spoonfeeding NSC’s credulous legion of fash/right apologists maybe is not how I want to spend my time but good to see you all reveal yourselves

You admitted you are intellectually dishonest. It is something you wanted us to know about you, so having done that accept it.

Do you have a problem with honesty?

Had you a proper education you would be aware of the philosophical burden of proof.

 

[Weststander]

I’m not here to waste my afternoon doing your homework. Show some intellectual curiosity for heaven’s sake

It’s really not the neat right wing anti-vax overlap you’ve decided.

1. A huge number of folk in BAME communities are still passionately anti-vax. This crops up time and time again in radio interviews, with wild claims about the damage to unborn babies, fertility, covert testing on blacks. Borne out by a very low vaccine uptake. All Tory or UKIP voters, or supporters of Tommy Robinson? I doubt it.

2. In Sussex for example, there are a large numbers of environmentally minded, off gridders but living in urban communities, who’ve become big supporters of Icke and P.Corbyn. Typically in their 40’s upwards. Someone in my family was heavily influenced by many of these parents, apparently I’m the exception by supporting the vaccine programme. The main coordinator of it all was a Labour Party official, now kicked out of the party.
https://www.brightonandhovenews.org/2020/11/14/brighton-and-hove-mother-faces-court-after-coronavirus-lockdown-protest/

I know people from Lewes and Brighton who’ve been to the Trafalgar Square Icke anti-vax demos. Either apolitical types or formerly Green/Labour voters.

It’s an eclectic mix of weirdos and others who’ve fallen under their spell.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

Or maybe spoonfeeding NSC’s credulous legion of fash/right apologists maybe is not how I want to spend my time but good to see you all reveal yourselves

Another thread derail from you. Well done, chalk it up on the list

 

[Matt Penfold]

Another thread derail from you. Well done, chalk it up on the list

I think we need to consider if he has the intellectual capacity to think that much. He has admitted he is unable to support his claims, which suggests not only a lack of honesty but a degree of cognitive impairment.

 

[London Irish]

You admitted you are intellectually dishonest. It is something you wanted us to know about you, so having done that accept it.

Do you have a problem with honesty?

Had you a proper education you would be aware of the philosophical burden of proof.

Hi I’m Matt Penfold and I spend my time on football sites running interference for the fash, everyone has gotta have a niche!

 

[Matt Penfold]

Hi I’m Matt Penfold and I spend my time on football sites running interference for the fash, everyone has gotta have a niche!

You know, you really are ignorant. You call yourself London Irish, and play the idiot. Living up to racist stereotypes is scummy. How we wish your parents had done a better job of raising you.

Can you really not do better than this? Are you so trapped in how you were raised you have to be scum?

I am done with you. I do not tolerate lying *****.

 

[London Irish]

It’s really not the neat right wing anti-vax overlap you’ve decided.

1. A huge number of folk in BAME communities are still passionately anti-vax. This crops up time and time again in radio interviews, with wild claims about the damage to unborn babies, fertility, covert testing on blacks. Borne out by a very low vaccine uptake. All Tory or UKIP voters, or supporters of Tommy Robinson? I doubt it.

2. In Sussex for example, there are a large numbers of environmentally minded, off gridders but living in urban communities, who’ve become big supporters of Icke and P.Corbyn. Typically in their 40’s upwards. Someone in my family was heavily influenced by many of these parents, apparently I’m the exception by supporting the vaccine programme. The main coordinator of it all was a Labour Party official, now kicked out of the party.
https://www.brightonandhovenews.org/2020/11/14/brighton-and-hove-mother-faces-court-after-coronavirus-lockdown-protest/

I know people from Lewes and Brighton who’ve been to the Trafalgar Square Icke anti-vax demos. Either apolitical types or formerly Green/Labour voters.

It really is an eclectic mix of weirdos and others who’ve fallen under their spell.

Couple of points first, there’s a world of difference between Vaxx sceptic as many BAME are and going out and doing organised protests in an opportunistic fashion as far right groups do to win recruits. At the risk of provoking the Ayran Nation on here, look at these protests, they are all overwhelmingly white.
Second, Creffield’s Kemptown Labour past would be interesting if she was a meaningful trend ie. if she had led another bunch of Labour members over to those demos. She didn’t, she’s an isolated crank now linking up with the far right while Labour members regard her with contempt, it’s the trend that is explanatory not isolated cases

 

[London Irish]

You know, you really are ignorant. You call yourself London Irish, and play the idiot. Living up to racist stereotypes is scummy. How we wish your parents had done a better job of raising you.

Can you really not do better than this? Are you so trapped in how you were raised you have to be scum?

I am done with you. I do not tolerate lying *****.

Well thanks for taking part, see you in the next load of threads full of rightwing bollox?

 

[Matt Penfold]

Well thanks for taking part, see you in the next load of threads full of rightwing bollox?

Nothing I have said is right-wing, you racist scumbag.

Look, having ****wit parents is no excuse.

 

[Matt Penfold]

Why would someone use the name London Irish and then act in a way that suggests they are trying to make the Irish look bad! What kind of scum does that?

 

[Guinness Boy]

They aren’t anti vax protesters, they are just the usual fash bellends who’ve jumped on the latest bandwagon after guarding racist statues

Well done. You win Pompous Idiot of the Week AGAIN. You might as well keep the trophy


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[London Irish]

Well done. You win Pompous Idiot of the Week AGAIN. You might as well keep the trophy


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You’re obviously not bothered by the racist posts immediately preceding yours? Of course not, those grudges won’t axe grind themselves

 

[BN9 BHA]

Well thanks for taking part, see you in the next load of threads full of rightwing bollox?

I think many of us can see it’s you talking bollox, another thread that was going well until you turned up to derail it.

 

[BNthree]

Most of the anti-vax people I know are all what you would call "alternative culture" with pretty much a hippie vibe rather than a political one..

My experience too (don't know many anti-vaxxers mind) but they are the types that like crystals/feng shui/dream catchers/homeopathy etc. All that anti-science bollocks.

 

[BN9 BHA]

My experience too (don't know many anti-vaxxers mind) but they are the types that like crystals/feng shui/dream catchers/homeopathy etc. All that anti-science bollocks.

And weird dragon ornaments

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

Couple of points first, there’s a world of difference between Vaxx sceptic as many BAME are and going out and doing organised protests in an opportunistic fashion as far right groups do to win recruits. At the risk of provoking the Ayran Nation on here, look at these protests, they are all overwhelmingly white.
Second, Creffield’s Kemptown Labour past would be interesting if she was a meaningful trend ie. if she had led another bunch of Labour members over to those demos. She didn’t, she’s an isolated crank now linking up with the far right while Labour members regard her with contempt, it’s the trend that is explanatory not isolated cases

With wild accusations like this it isn’t difficult to see who is the isolated crank….You do have a bit of a track record of doing this to threads.

 

[BNthree]

And weird dragon ornaments

Isn't that Welsh people??

 

[BN9 BHA]

Isn't that Welsh people??

That’s flags

 

[pocketseagull]

My experience too (don't know many anti-vaxxers mind) but they are the types that like crystals/feng shui/dream catchers/homeopathy etc. All that anti-science bollocks.

I think traditionally anti-vaxxers would be as above, specifically regarding MMR and 'indigo children', what's happened with covid-19 thanks to Trump is an influx of far right / Brexit people and conspiracy theorists.

 

[Weststander]

Couple of points first, there’s a world of difference between Vaxx sceptic as many BAME are and going out and doing organised protests in an opportunistic fashion as far right groups do to win recruits. At the risk of provoking the Ayran Nation on here, look at these protests, they are all overwhelmingly white.
Second, Creffield’s Kemptown Labour past would be interesting if she was a meaningful trend ie. if she had led another bunch of Labour members over to those demos. She didn’t, she’s an isolated crank now linking up with the far right while Labour members regard her with contempt, it’s the trend that is explanatory not isolated cases

92.5% of the population is white, so they’d dominate any non-race event.

Left/liberal leaning Brighton and Hove was the capital of those following the work of disgraced Dr Andrew Wakefield. ‘Well read’ parents not wanting their babies to get autism. This emerged with relatively high instances of the diseases in the years that followed. This time Green Party and Labour Party supporting parents I know and know of in the Five Ways and Elm Grove/Southover areas, almost overnight became Covid deniers then anti vaxers.

I was surprised. Where’s all this come from? Facebook and Twatter spreading the lies. Incredibly people have taken in the full caboodle - 5G masts, Rooney/Clinton/Clooney evil, microbots.

In March 2020 I’d have agreed with you. Then I discovered an uncomfortable reality.

Packaging up every subject matter as “those right wingers” is lazy and inaccurate.