never been more ashamed to be an albion fan

[British Bulldog]

look sonny, wilkins is nowhere near , never has been and never will be good enough to be manager of this great football club.

Whatever fans oppinions of Wilkins lets just remember the squad he's working with is the squad that McGhee built! Add that to the fact that Wilkins & White are now having to do the job of 4 people I think it's an unfair basis on which to judge them.

 

[Theatre of Trees]

The point you're missing is that Mullery and Cattlin had far better resources to start their managerial careers.
Is the Brighton job in its present state one to entrust a totally inexperienced man with, especially with no help ?

Er no I didn't.

Wilkins has been in the job for about 19 days on a caretaker basis. In that 19 days we've played 6 matches including a number of long distance away games. On top of that both Wilkins and White were given the job abruptly without having time to think about anything else other than keeping the team afloat during this busy period of matches. The temporary nature of his job means no long term decisions can yet be made and as has been indicated by Wilkins lately they are aware that the coaching side of the staff are two people lighter at the moment. If he was to get the job then he would no doubt rectify that problem perhaps by getting in an experienced coach to help.

 

[British Bulldog]

Wilkins has been in the job for about 19 days on a caretaker basis. In that 19 days we've played 6 matches including a number of long distance away games. On top of that both Wilkins and White were given the job abruptly without having time to think about anything else other than keeping the team afloat during this busy period of matches. The temporary nature of his job means no long term decisions can yet be made and as has been indicated by Wilkins lately they are aware that the coaching side of the staff are two people lighter at the moment. If he was to get the job then he would no doubt rectify that problem perhaps by getting in an experienced coach to help.

It's sensible points like those that fans seem to be over looking at the moment. OK we've just lost three difficult away games, But given the circumstances did we really expect to get much of a return out of these games anyway?

 

[Dandyman]

Er no I didn't.

Wilkins has been in the job for about 19 days on a caretaker basis. In that 19 days we've played 6 matches including a number of long distance away games. On top of that both Wilkins and White were given the job abruptly without having time to think about anything else other than keeping the team afloat during this busy period of matches. The temporary nature of his job means no long term decisions can yet be made and as has been indicated by Wilkins lately they are aware that the coaching side of the staff are two people lighter at the moment. If he was to get the job then he would no doubt rectify that problem perhaps by getting in an experienced coach to help.

Damn you and your sensible & balanced post ! NSC wants a lynching and they want it now.

 

[Icy Gull]

On a low level amongst the airheads, yes, you're right. But so what?

You're saying that once the precedent of *cough* fan power has been set, it will automatically kick in from now onwards?

It's water under the bridge now but if DK cited fan power as the reason for sacking MM is correct (I was away when it happened so do not know if it was that alone or even that simple), then yes it does set a precedent. If fans think abusing the manager will result in him being sacked, having done it once, a vocal minority will try and do it again after some bad results. I'm certainly not in support of it, as I personally think sacking MM was a mistake but it was a gaff by our leader imo to put that forward as the reason. PR often seems to be a problem for this club and I expect an increase in abuse if things continue to go badly, sadly.

I am happy for the DW's to stay in charge as I do not see anyone making a difference without the funds to bring in players in their prime at this level.

 

[NMH]

There's an umployed manager working for sky, Has got teams out of this league at every time of asking and he is commited and loyal.

Scottish bloke, nice fella. Was hounded out of his last club despite getting them to their highest league finish in about 15 years.

Cant remember his name though.

Good, we don't need mercenaries like that, blokes who don't know what they're doing and stand on the touchline silent and motionless when the team is getting thrashed, then takes off the best players and subs them. GOOD RIDDANCE!

 

[London Irish]

It's water under the bridge now but if DK cited fan power as the reason for sacking MM is correct

Yes, that was the headline reason, the soundbite repeated on the Championship, Meridian, most media outlets except the Argus that obviously went into it a bit deeper. DK didn't say fan power of course, but a slightly highbrow version of that in this concept of Albion as a community club, hence he had to listen to the community of fans who were apparently demanding McGhee go (left unexplained was those fans who were demanding the opposite, errant members of the community obviously, cheers Dick).

I'm afraid using those arguments, Dick Knight played with fire - the kind of fire that could sadly be used against him by the climate of permanent oppositionalism that seems to have developed among impatient fans these days.

 

[BensGrandad]

It's water under the bridge now but if DK cited fan power as the reason for sacking MM is correct

After Leeds were beaten at home by Sunderland there was a report in the Daily Telegraph of the game and the reporter said that the fans were shouting for Kevin Blackwells head but, and to quote the reporter, 'Fans dont get managers sacked its players that do though'. He obviously hadn't heard of Brighton and Hove Albion.

 

[m20gull]

After Leeds were beaten at home by Sunderland there was a report in the Daily Telegraph of the game and the reporter said that the fans were shouting for Kevin Blackwells head but, and to quote the reporter, 'Fans dont get managers sacked its players that do though'. He obviously hadn't heard of Brighton and Hove Albion.

Yeah, because our players have done such a good job in this calendar year haven't they?

Fans didn't get McGhee sacked, his record did. He couldn't attract new talent this season (forget previous seasons - I'm talking this one) and couldn't motivate or manage the talent he already had.

At Bristol it was clear that even the long-suffering away fans had lost patience and it was time for a change. DK's guff about the "community club" is a sideshow.

 

[Icy Gull]

Fans didn't get McGhee sacked, his record did. He couldn't attract new talent this season (forget previous seasons - I'm talking this one)
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I'll reserve judgement on that until I see which forward or lb DW or our next manager attracts down here on a budget that seems more spin than fact. If he does better than attract 2 players who become internationals within a year (Henderson and McShane) at around 30k,and we finish around the top 10 I will accept that sacking the previous manager was the right move, Only time will tell I guess.

 

[Hoggy]

to be fair mayo, hammond and carpenter have not performed at all this season, so any supporter believing this before kick off is not going to accept that it takes an experienced player 15 minutes to settle in any game.

and professional footballers should not make the sort of mistakes that have been happening in recent games, el abd at carlisle is another example.

its like us going to work and making a stupid mistake like giving away a password or not shredding important information, it is a sackable offence, i know its more common in football but it still gives those who travel and pay lots of money to watch their team the right to let themselves be heard.

afterall if we encouraged that sort of play what chance do we have?

 

[NMH]

There's always the thought that maybe, just maybe, word does get around the players about which manager is risky to work under, which ones bring success and which don't, which ones might even destroy a player.

We have had astute managers who could attract excellent players and get the best out of their team. These managers have even taken jobs at a desperate, lowly struggling league side and turned us into winners to be feared and admired.

That last one was not one of the latter.

 

[Da Man Clay]

There's always the thought that maybe, just maybe, word does get around the players about which manager is risky to work under, which ones bring success and which don't, which ones might even destroy a player.

We have had astute managers who could attract excellent players and get the best out of their team. These managers have even taken jobs at a desperate, lowly struggling league side and turned us into winners to be feared and admired.

That last one was not one of the latter. [/QUOTE

We will see who are next manager attracts before I make judgment on if it was MM's faul we couldn't get anyone.

So far we have signed 1 unproven stirker. To go with the 2 MM Signed.