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Uncle Buck

Ghost Writer
Jul 7, 2003
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Fragmented Badger said:
I am not perfect on these matters too, and make no secret of the fact that I have a few targets in this albion squad who have been here too long, and just aren't producing anything to make their wages worthwhile. I too would give criticism out at a ground if I felt it was deserved. I don't think the two you mentioned are too much harsher than that usually. However, I gather yesterday they were on the back of 24 hours solid drinking, and probably do like the sound of their own voices a little too much. They also lost any possible respect by abusing players from the first whistle. Compare this to the rest of us around there (which you must obviously have been one), who were obviously frustrated and angry, but not insulting, and you can see why these two "stuck out," let's say.

Again that is about right.

I was less than pleasant about Santos, especially after the second goal.

Probably did not help that due to having to drive back from Worthing my alcohol consumption was near nothing, so I noticed these things more.
 


Uncle Buck

Ghost Writer
Jul 7, 2003
28,075
Fragmented Badger said:
I know what you mean. I drove there AND had to act responsibly in front of the missus, so drinking was always going to be non-existent. It was one of those games where a few pints may have made it easier to laugh at, but in a sober state it was always going to be painful viewing. Last night was concrete proof of why the TRAIN is always best to away games!

What I would say about getting the train as one of my travel colleagues now knows from Saturday is that 2 bottles of red wine and a large glass of port before arriving in Carlisle is not a good plan. The fact he got in the ground was a miracle...
 




Kinky Gerbil

Im The Scatman
NSC Patron
Jul 16, 2003
58,794
hassocks
Uncle Buck said:
What I would say about getting the train as one of my travel colleagues now knows from Saturday is that 2 bottles of red wine and a large glass of port before arriving in Carlisle is not a good plan. The fact he got in the ground was a miracle...


Cowboy Hats
 


Theatre of Trees

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
7,839
TQ2905
Ernest said:
It's not the players fault that the squad is threadbare and getting barer every game and not the players fault we have a UNTRIED inexperienced kids coach as the manager.
As long as whoever is wearing the stripes gives 100% effort and commitment to the team that is all a supporter can ask.

So if another Alan Mullery turned up you'd turn him down because he lacks experience? And what about Cattlin your favourite manager? If DK turned to another untried sweet shop owner you'd be spitting out your dummy faster than you could say tried and tested. What an absolute cretin you are.

It makes me laugh some of the shite that gets aired on here. How do you become experienced? I'd really like to dig up those threads from a year or two ago when Boothroyd was made manager of Watford when everybody laughed and made them favourites to go down. All those names bandied about like Tilson and Parkinson last year, would we have accepted them as manager before they got jobs at Southend or Colchester? No we wouldn't because we'd be moaning about them being untried and untested and DK going for the cheap option. Who says Wilkins doesn't have contacts? Cretins on here who think he has been sitting in a little hut up at the university for the past few years coaching kids only. Amazingly enough he goes on courses mixes with other coaches, makes contacts, all the things we do in our working life (except the students and the KFC fryers who wouldn't experience this type of thing). He's been thrown in at the deep end has to contend with 7 matches in 21 days, has he really had time to sit down and plot a course where he wants to take the club? Managing means looking at the long term prospects but having to use the tools that are available for the time being, it took Adams a season, Tilson roughly the equivalent amount of time. Yet here we are whinging that after 6 games Wilkins has failed. What a load of bollocks.

Rant over
:angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:
 


Uncle Spielberg said:
"There's an umployed manager working for sky, Has got teams out of this league at every time of asking and he is commited and loyal.

Scottish bloke, nice fella. Was hounded out of his last club despite getting them to their highest league finish in about 15 years.

Cant remember his name though."

Damanclay

Is that the bloke who got the club promoted in his first season, kept the club up in the championship when no one had done before, turned down offers from bigger clubs because he was committed to the Albion and was loyal , took the team down but with having to sell very single player of any worth or value, having no ground or facilities and no real money for wages or transers and then was 10 seconds away from 3 wins out of 3 and a cup win and was then sacked after 7 games for a youth team manager who has now lost 3 in a row and counting ???

When in his time did McGhee turn down offers from bigger clubs to stay with us? Can you please name the clubs and the times it was supposed to happen?
This is also the man that said that losing to Stoke 5-1 at home on the last day of the season was irrelevant.
As other people have said on here, McGhee has gone get over it.
 




saltash seagull

New member
Mar 1, 2004
4,480
cornwall
Southover Street Seagull said:
When in his time did McGhee turn down offers from bigger clubs to stay with us? Can you please name the clubs and the times it was supposed to happen?
This is also the man that said that losing to Stoke 5-1 at home on the last day of the season was irrelevant.
As other people have said on here, McGhee has gone get over it.
im no mcghee fan but iv heard it from the horses mouth he turned down being stachans number 2 when he took over at celtic
 


saltash seagull

New member
Mar 1, 2004
4,480
cornwall
Gully said:
...on a similar note, did anyone else hear someone with a Scottish accent shouting at one of our players to get stuck in and stop playing like a poof!
i was just along from the jock had a bit 2 say for himself thats for sure
 


Man of Harveys

Well-known member
Jul 9, 2003
18,895
Brighton, UK
Fragmented Badger said:
Yep, I know who we are talking about here. Dare I admit it, these two are actually friends of mine! They were obviously pissed up to their eyeballs, which is I presume why they were wearing smirnoff boxes on their heads, and the abuse of Mayo did start from the off. I'm not too sure about Carpenter though, I think Mayo, Henderson, and Revell came in for the most grief from the two you mention. If you saw them, then I imagine you saw me too - I was just to their right standing with my girlfriend. As for those laughing at he who shouts loudest, I'm not sure there was THAT much of that going on. I for one may have raised a smile at the sheer ridiculous nature of it all, but as for actually finding it FUNNY I doubt there were many. The "group" included quite a few NSCers actually who can shed more light - John Boy, SDC, and Rumble to name three. I am all for criticising when we are shit, but last night it did go too far from some. I'm not saying the targets were wrong (in fact i stood there muttering about bloody Carpenter for much of the first half), but the timing and manner of criticism was apalling.

Who was it then?
 




saltash seagull said:
im no mcghee fan but iv heard it from the horses mouth he turned down being stachans number 2 when he took over at celtic

I never heard that one Saltash. So are you saying McGhee told you this?
 


Ernest

Stupid IDIOT
Nov 8, 2003
42,748
LOONEY BIN
Theatre of Trees said:
So if another Alan Mullery turned up you'd turn him down because he lacks experience? And what about Cattlin your favourite manager? If DK turned to another untried sweet shop owner you'd be spitting out your dummy faster than you could say tried and tested. What an absolute cretin you are.

It makes me laugh some of the shite that gets aired on here.

Mullery had a chairman with pots of money and a very experienced squad and as a former England captain he was able to persuade the likes of Lawrenson to join us.
Cattlin also had an experienced squad as well as money to strengthen the side and the contacts to get good players in, do you remember Danny Wilson ?
Wilkins has no experience of league football as a coach/manager and his only assistant is a joke figure whose only talent seems to be bringing back the duty frees on his scouting trips abroad.
How can you compare Wilkins with Mullery or Cattlin ?
 






Dave the OAP

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
46,762
at home
Ernest said:
Boothroyd when he got the job at Watford Keith Burkinshaw was his assistant, Wilkins gets a clown so how does that compare ?


:lolol: :lolol: :lolol: :lolol: :lolol:


:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
 


Theatre of Trees

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
7,839
TQ2905
Ernest said:
Mullery had a chairman with pots of money and a very experienced squad and as a former England captain he was able to persuade the likes of Lawrenson to join us.
Cattlin also had an experienced squad as well as money to strengthen the side and the contacts to get good players in, do you remember Danny Wilson ?
Wilkins has no experience of league football as a coach/manager and his only assistant is a joke figure whose only talent seems to be bringing back the duty frees on his scouting trips abroad.
How can you compare Wilkins with Mullery or Cattlin ?

Neither Mullery or Cattlin had experience as a league manager either before coming to us. Mullery inherited a squad Taylor had almost got promoted the season before whilst Cattlin was able to rebuild with some of the money gained from selling the likes of Foster, Robinson and Stevens. Both in an unarguably different position to what Wilkins is in at the moment. I also seem to recall Cattlin had a run of indifferent results when he took over.

The point is this in all three cases there was no league manager experience, to get experience you need to be in the job to have a go then be judged over a period of time. To actually start judging now is absolutely ridiculous.
 


Ernest

Stupid IDIOT
Nov 8, 2003
42,748
LOONEY BIN
Theatre of Trees said:
Neither Mullery or Cattlin had experience as a league manager either before coming to us. Mullery inherited a squad Taylor had almost got promoted the season before whilst Cattlin was able to rebuild with some of the money gained from selling the likes of Foster, Robinson and Stevens. Both in an unarguably different position to what Wilkins is in at the moment. I also seem to recall Cattlin had a run of indifferent results when he took over.

The point is this in all three cases there was no league manager experience, to get experience you need to be in the job to have a go then be judged over a period of time. To actually start judging now is absolutely ridiculous.

The point you're missing is that Mullery and Cattlin had far better resources to start their managerial careers.
Is the Brighton job in its present state one to entrust a totally inexperienced man with, especially with no help ?
 


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