[Drinking] Natural wines

[Herr Tubthumper]

Cabernet Franc….is this usually chilled? I didn’t order it by the way…..just saw it.

 

[Goldstone1976]

Cabernet Franc….is this usually chilled? I didn’t order it by the way…..just saw it.

Unusual to chill a cab franc. Though I do sometimes drink it not far hotter than cellar temperature - say 13-14C

 

[Machiavelli]

Cabernet Franc….is this usually chilled? I didn’t order it by the way…..just saw it.

Often. It's a quite remarkable grape. You see that icon that G1976 has by the profile: that's one of the most exalted wines ever (and G1976 has drunk -- sorry, tasted, imbibed) some, and that's made from Cabernet Franc (about the only top wine from Bordeaux that is). The best CFs tend to come from the mid-region of the Loire around Anjou and Saumur, and they can age forever.
Most red wine is drunk too warm. I whacked my Marsannay (Pinot Noir) in the fridge for an hour or so before drinking it, and it's all the better for it.

 

[Machiavelli]

Unusual to chill a cab franc. Though I do sometimes drink it not far hotter than cellar temperature - say 13-14C

It is only unusual to chill a cab franc if you have a cellar that keeps the wines at 13-14C

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Domaine Mosse Bangarang Primeur Rouge 2020
£21.00

Gift wrapping: Options available Shipping: Calculated at Checkout REGION: Anjou, Loire, France GRAPES: Pineau d'Aunis & Cabernet Franc VINEYARD: Organic CELLAR: Fermented with native yeasts, unfiltered & unfined, no additional sulphites

This is the wine in question. And just realized it’s two grapes.

 

[Machiavelli]

Domaine Mosse Bangarang Primeur Rouge 2020
£21.00

Gift wrapping: Options available Shipping: Calculated at Checkout REGION: Anjou, Loire, France GRAPES: Pineau d'Aunis & Cabernet Franc VINEYARD: Organic CELLAR: Fermented with native yeasts, unfiltered & unfined, no additional sulphites

This is the wine in question. And just realized it’s two grapes.

Yes, but is it any good?
Marsannay 2018 from Sylvain Pataille is very good. I like SP, whose Marsannays are as good as that appellation get and, along with the Aligoteurs (see what he did there?), is working hard for us to revise our views on Aligote.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Yes, but is it any good?
Marsannay 2018 from Sylvain Pataille is very good. I like SP, whose Marsannays are as good as that appellation get and, along with the Aligoteurs (see what he did there?), is working hard for us to revise our views on Aligote.

I haven’t tried it. I was more curious about the chilling aspect.

 

[Goldstone1976]

It is only unusual to chill a cab franc if you have a cellar that keeps the wines at 13-14C

10.5c; 62RH. Damn near perfect. Done nothing to it - it’s like that naturally.

 

[Goldstone1976]

Most red wine is drunk too warm.

Damn right it is!

 

[Machiavelli]

10.5c; 62RH. Damn near perfect. Done nothing to it - it’s like that naturally.

RH: que? Residual humidity?

 

[Goldstone1976]

RH: que? Residual humidity?

Relative…