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[Football] Nathan Jones **Joins Charlton 04/02/2023**







Swansman

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Feels like most of their manager appointments are at least relatively successful. Think they'll give him a decent amount of time as well.
 




Easy 10

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Jul 5, 2003
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Well he died on his arse when he stepped up to manage a (newly relegated) Stoke didn't he. I think he'll have his work cut out in a PL dressing room where there will be an element of "Nathan who ?", not unlike at Chelsea now, but lower down the scale. He doesn't have much of a CV to fall back on, so if his methods don't bear dividends early on, you get the feeling some players could easily tune out.

Despite his antics at Yeovil I wouldn't wish him ill in this job, if he gets it. Other than the fact it would be quite nice to see Southampton back in the second division.
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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What was wrong with the first thread?

Oh, it was shit, wasn't it.

For the record, he did well at Luton.
He did badly at Stoke because Stoke were a basket case.
He has exceeded expectations back at Luton
He is a ruthless little bastard, not unfamiliar with the dark arts
And he's an interesting fit for Stains.
 




Cornwallboy

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Oct 13, 2022
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Bizarre appointment. Failed big time at Stoke, ok probably mitigating circumstances as going to a newly relegated from the PL club is always difficult, but if he failed to step up from Luton to Stoke, how can he be expected to step up from Luton to Soton?
 




Swansman

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Bizarre appointment. Failed big time at Stoke, ok probably mitigating circumstances as going to a newly relegated from the PL club is always difficult, but if he failed to step up from Luton to Stoke, how can he be expected to step up from Luton to Soton?
Sometimes it just doesn't work out at a club and it doesn't have to be a case of "failing to step up"... sometimes its just the wrong guy at the wrong place at the wrong time.
 




Harry Wilson's tackle

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Bizarre appointment. Failed big time at Stoke, ok probably mitigating circumstances as going to a newly relegated from the PL club is always difficult, but if he failed to step up from Luton to Stoke, how can he be expected to step up from Luton to Soton?
???

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Not Andy Naylor

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Huge gamble for NJ. Southampton have a horribly unbalanced squad with too many young players and no strikers worthy of the name. I’m sure he’ll take it if offered but he might be better advised to pass.
 






Justice

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Would we want Dyche if roles were reversed? Hell no yet he’s palmed of to other clubs as surprised they don’t want him :facepalm:
 


wellquickwoody

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Sometimes it just doesn't work out at a club and it doesn't have to be a case of "failing to step up"... sometimes its just the wrong guy at the wrong place at the wrong time.
Wow, I entirely agree! Damn.

Sometimes just chance how things work out, wrong manager, wrong faces in dressing room, not enough money, too much money, wrong opponent at the wrong time, wrong referee, etc etc etc. A very big element of luck can affect all sorts of stuff.
 


Questions

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Oct 18, 2006
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Are Saints in financial trouble that they are needing to go cheap…. Would we have been happy after Potter left to have approached Mr Jones ?
 




Commander

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Wow, I entirely agree! Damn.

Sometimes just chance how things work out, wrong manager, wrong faces in dressing room, not enough money, too much money, wrong opponent at the wrong time, wrong referee, etc etc etc. A very big element of luck can affect all sorts of stuff.
Yep, agreed here too. The problem for NJ is that you only get one of those excuses on your CV unless you are very, very experienced. He would need this to work out with Southampton otherwise he’s finished as anything other than a lower league journeyman manager.

Eddie Howe managed it, no reason why NJ can’t. Good luck to him.
 


Springal

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Are Saints in financial trouble that they are needing to go cheap…. Would we have been happy after Potter left to have approached Mr Jones ?
Some on here would have , better to have a known name who understands English football than some Johnny Foreigner
 


Justice

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Jun 21, 2012
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Bizarre appointment. Failed big time at Stoke, ok probably mitigating circumstances as going to a newly relegated from the PL club is always difficult, but if he failed to step up from Luton to Stoke, how can he be expected to step up from Luton to Soton?
He would of learned from his Stoke experience, everyone seems to struggle at Stoke.
 


A1X

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Good luck to him. Reckon he’ll need it.
 






GT49er

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Well he died on his arse when he stepped up to manage a (newly relegated) Stoke didn't he. I think he'll have his work cut out in a PL dressing room where there will be an element of "Nathan who ?", not unlike at Chelsea now, but lower down the scale.
Reminds me of an incident back in the day (90s maybe?) when Southampton appointed a new manager from a lower division - can't remember the bloke's name, sorry. Anyway, at the time Southampton had a youngish player who'd got a couple of England caps - can't remember who that was either ...........................

But at training, on the new manager's first day, his greeting for the new manager was 'Hello, I'm ******* - I'm an England international, don't you know. Would you like my autograph?'
 


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