Moving threads moved to the other stuff/archive

[pastafarian]

In the spirit of Jezzy Corbyn and new open democracy

Is it possible that the moderators that move the few threads to the other stuff could at least own up and explain their thinking in a quick post with a few words as to why they have done it?

Is there a valid reason why you currently don’t do this anyway?

 

[Carrot Cruncher]

It's a fair question. I haven't moved many myself, but looking at the current crop of threads there, the overriding theme are threads on immigration, Muslims, etc, that go nowhere, dredge up the same arguments and give a medium for the usual suspects to insult each other. Moving these threads means these binfests can carry on without the prying eyes of Google Ads et al who keep the site running for free.

Not sure, although I'm not necessarily against the idea, there's much point of putting stuff in the 'Moderating Decisions' section, as the reasons for moving are usually patently obvious.

 

[pastafarian]

It's a fair question. I haven't moved many myself, but looking at the current crop of threads there, the overriding theme are threads on immigration, Muslims, etc, that go nowhere, dredge up the same arguments and give a medium for the usual suspects to insult each other. Moving these threads means these binfests can carry on without the prying eyes of Google Ads et al who keep the site running for free.

Not sure, although I'm not necessarily against the idea, there's much point of putting stuff in the 'Moderating Decisions' section, as the reasons for moving are usually patently obvious.

if people are being abusive move the thread.......i think everyone would agree

take the UK net migration hits record high thread though........moved when it hit page 308......i cant see why it was moved then considering the previous 307 pages........some mod must have had a good reason for moving it at page 308..........it would be good to know why........boredom is not a valid reason

 

[Hastings gull]

It's a fair question. I haven't moved many myself, but looking at the current crop of threads there, the overriding theme are threads on immigration, Muslims, etc, that go nowhere, dredge up the same arguments and give a medium for the usual suspects to insult each other. Moving these threads means these binfests can carry on without the prying eyes of Google Ads et al who keep the site running for free.

Not sure, although I'm not necessarily against the idea, there's much point of putting stuff in the 'Moderating Decisions' section, as the reasons for moving are usually patently obvious.

Given what appears under your name, I do wonder whether you should be moving threads and making judgements about others. It seems strange if you are then moderating other posts.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

Interesting.

I'd say that I far more often think ' Why HASN'T this thread been moved to The Other Stuff ? ', rather than wonder why a thread has been moved.

 

[Simster]

In the spirit of Jezzy Corbyn and new open democracy

But this board isn't a democracy. It's owned by Bozza, and he has put moderators in place as he sees fit.

Looking at the threads moved in there, they are all the same. Tiresome immigration-related rubbish ending up with the same old people hurling insults. If the mods aren't heartily sick of them, everyone else almost certainly is (I suspect).

 

[MattBackHome]

Yeah I can't say that I've been naffed by any mood decision that I can recall. Keep it up I say.

 

[Return of the Rev]

It's a fair question. I haven't moved many myself, but looking at the current crop of threads there, the overriding theme are threads on immigration, Muslims, etc, that go nowhere, dredge up the same arguments and give a medium for the usual suspects to insult each other. Moving these threads means these binfests can carry on without the prying eyes of Google Ads et al who keep the site running for free.

Not sure, although I'm not necessarily against the idea, there's much point of putting stuff in the 'Moderating Decisions' section, as the reasons for moving are usually patently obvious.

Threads that go nowhere,dredge up the same arguments and give a medium for the usual suspects to insult each other That's 95% of nsc tbh.

I think the elephant has to be moved to a different room,expecting travelers thread to end up in nellies room soon.

 

[Guinness Boy]

Just had a quick look. Yeah, it's all the tiresome repetitive nonsense that's been moved.

 

[Acker79]

take the UK net migration hits record high thread though........moved when it hit page 308......i cant see why it was moved then considering the previous 307 pages........some mod must have had a good reason for moving it at page 308..........it would be good to know why........boredom is not a valid reason

Not necessarily. The mods don't roam around the board reading threads on the off chance they might catch something that needs action. They use the board like everyone else, reading the threads that interest them, and only go into other if a post is reported.

It could have been something on any page that caused them to act and they've only just decided to look over that thread on a whim, or because it was reorted, or because they were checking someone's posting history, etc.

 

[Simster]

Threads that go nowhere,dredge up the same arguments and give a medium for the usual suspects to insult each other That's 95% of nsc tbh.

A quick perusal of the front page is enough to debunk this myth I think. There are several single subject threads that have been running for years and are contributed to regularly, a few banal threads of low-importance and the rest seem to be current issue threads - some football related and some not.

What there doesn't seem to be are many examples of tiresome duplicate threads full of rehashed whinges and hackneyed opinions descending into abuse.

 

[spence]

Threads that go nowhere,dredge up the same arguments and give a medium for the usual suspects to insult each other That's 95% of nsc tbh.

I think the elephant has to be moved to a different room,expecting travelers thread to end up in nellies room soon.

Most of the tiresome bollox are started by you. That's not 95%.

 

[El Presidente]

I've moved many of the threads.

NSC is a broad church, and if people want to cut and paste articles about migrants and Muslims and stick them here they are welcome to do so. The threads have a relatively small footprint in terms of contributors, and just clog up the main board with vitriol, accusations and arguments that we cannot be bothered to mediate.

Some people also take great delight on these threads in trying to circumnavigate the swear filter, which adds to the tedium.

By putting the threads into The Other Stuff

(a) It reduces the chances of our Google overlords getting the hump, and
(b) Those people who want NSC to be a mini Daily Express front page have their own special area where they can 'debate' something which has been discussed to death.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

I've moved many of the threads.

NSC is a broad church, and if people want to cut and paste articles about migrants and Muslims and stick them here they are welcome to do so. The threads have a relatively small footprint in terms of contributors, and just clog up the main board with vitriol, accusations and arguments that we cannot be bothered to mediate.

Some people also take great delight on these threads in trying to circumnavigate the swear filter, which adds to the tedium.

By putting the threads into The Other Stuff

(a) It reduces the chances of our Google overlords getting the hump, and
(b) Those people who want NSC to be a mini Daily Express front page have their own special area where they can 'debate' something which has been discussed to death.

Yep. My take exactly.

One point, in answer to the question about how a thread could be hundreds of pages long, and only THEN get moved -

Its osometimes precisely BECAUSE it is long that its been moved. If there is a thread / post reported as offensive I'll take a quick look. If its a single page thread, you can action it easily - delete or edit the offending post, if approriate, and job done. If it's 300 pages long, and the reported post looks to be just one of a number of dubious posts in an ongoing 'debate' then its much easier and safer to just move the whole thread to look at properly, later on.

(If that proper look reveals the entire thread to have run its course into dullards rehashing vitriolic pointless arguments, I'll not bother moving it back)

 

[Return of the Rev]

Most of the tiresome bollox are started by you. That's not 95%.

Its either travelers,immigrants or rotr fault

 

[severnside gull]

if people are being abusive move the thread.......i think everyone would agree

take the UK net migration hits record high thread though........moved when it hit page 308......i cant see why it was moved then considering the previous 307 pages........some mod must have had a good reason for moving it at page 308..........it would be good to know why........boredom is not a valid reason

Au contraire. Boredom is an EXCELLENT reason !!

 

[Megazone]

A lot of discriminative stuff being spouted about travellers today. It'll be interesting to see the outcome.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

In the spirit of Jezzy Corbyn and new open democracy

Is it possible that the moderators that move the few threads to the other stuff could at least own up and explain their thinking in a quick post with a few words as to why they have done it?

Is there a valid reason why you currently don’t do this anyway?

That would be helpful so NSC members could have a better understanding of what is deemed acceptable or roughly where the line is. It might also help identify people who consistently or deliberately over step the line and some who do it intentionally to get threads moved.

One of the strengths of this forum is having a broader range of topics discussed IMO. Yes many descend into the same old arguments between the same people but are no more repetitive or tedious than many of the Football related threads. Not overly bothered if threads are moved but having a bit more info as to why might be useful.

 

[severnside gull]

(b) Those people who want NSC to be a mini Daily Express front page have their own special area .

I somehow read that as " a mini Daily Express FART page" which fairly accurately describes much of the "other stuff"

 

[KZNSeagull]

Nsc has been closed several times in recent years due to unsavoury or defamatory posts on the Big Board. I would think it is pretty obvious why some threads are moved.