[Football] More possible FFP issues for Chelsea?

[Papa Lazarou]

Maybe they've bet the farm on this European Superleague coming into play some time within the next few years, which they will naturally assume they'll be entitled to join regardless of their recent PL travails.

They certainly have the arrogance and sense of entitlement, if that is indeed their plan. Would not surprise me.

they certainly assumed European, probably Champions League revenue for possibly this and definitely next season.

 

[Cheggers]

European football - The Boehly Grail.
I'm taking the rest of the day off for that one.

 

[Milano]

This is marvelous stuff. It's the reason I want Liverpool to win the FLC and Villa to knock them out the FAC, no Europe again and they are in so much shit.
This was discussed a lot on here at the time that these 8 year contracts were great at allowing the m to spend massive money v quickly but provided one fact was correct - that the players were actually up to it, that was the gamble, I'm sure they thought maybe one or max two wouldn't work out, but it's 6 or 7, it's wonderful.

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

Maybe they've bet the farm on this European Superleague coming into play some time within the next few years, which they will naturally assume they'll be entitled to join regardless of their recent PL travails.

They certainly have the arrogance and sense of entitlement, if that is indeed their plan. Would not surprise me.

And I would bet good money that Boehly has had informal conversations with top brass at Barca, Madrid and Juve.

I will also bet that certain Saudi clubs will help Chelsea with their FFP trevails, £150m for Lukaku that sort of thing and mysteriously find they are invited too.

 

[Jimmy Grimble]

Were we not originally after that Lesley Ugochukwu as a Caicedo replacement before they decided to sign him and Caicedo? Lesley is about 4th choice in their pecking order now. Wonder if we’d query about taking him off their hands at a cut price.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

None of whom will now go for what Chelsea would expect/want because everyone knows they will be a forced seller and desperate.

and none will take a pay cut

 

[BRIGHT ON Q]

The old boy isn't happy

 

[highflyer]

Thanks for that clarification, I think I'm now beginning to realise (and enjoy) just what a mess Chelsea are in.
I previously thought it was a cunning stunt being executed by clever financial wizards, but it seems they may have interpreted incorrectly the Premier Leagues appetite to stop clubs taking the piss.
If Chelsea are able to obtain a stay of execution this season by selling home grown players like Gallagher, Colwill and James, then next season they will be truly in the shit with no Get Out Of Jail cards left to play.

I'm beginning to feel an interesting 2024/25 season could be ahead, with possibly three decent sides like Leicester, Southampton and Leeds being promoted.
Chelsea fans must be both very nervous and angry.

This, I'm afraid, remains to be tested. they've made the rght noises. Which is good. But are yet to properly nail a really powerful club - one, say, owned by a petro-state or a well connected American Billionaire.

I'm hearing increasingly sympathetic noises from the media towards the newly rich clubs. I think it was David Orstein (but might be wrong) speaking to a set of punters on BBC the other day and (almost) everyone agreeing how jolly unfair it was that 'ambitious' clubs like Newcastle are being restrained from spending when there is next to no chance of them going bunkrupt Which is, apparently, 'what the FFP rules are there for'. I don't know if this is just certain people understanding where their interests lie (more money in the game = ever higher salaries and trebles all round, ching ching). Or whether there are some more 'direct' conversations going on to ensure that everyone is gradually brought round to expressing the view that restricting Saudi Arabia from spending whatever it wants, to help divert attention from their murdering ways, is somehow 'bad for the game we love'. But I definitely sense a concerted campaign coming to push back and make sure that the likes of Chelsea, Man City and Newcastle are able to get back to their mega-spending ways. And yes, I suspect that will involve a return of the '(Saudi based?) Superleage idea at some stage. When they've lined up their ducks so as not to get ambushed by these annoying 'poor people that actually go to soccer games' again.

Personally I'm not optimistic. They are rich. We are stupid. And money = power = getting what you want in the end.

But by god, I hope I'm wrong!

 

[B-right-on]

Were we not originally after that Lesley Ugochukwu as a Caicedo replacement before they decided to sign him and Caicedo? Lesley is about 4th choice in their pecking order now. Wonder if we’d query about taking him off their hands at a cut price.

Epitomises the Black Hole of Chelsea FC.

Brought for £23m on 7 year contract. 19 years old French U21 international. Played 23 times for Rennes in his first season and 35 times last season (with 2,000 mins on the pitch). 13 times so far this season and nothing since Xmas and only 500 mins on the pitch.

Wonder how his morale is and how much that affects him as a player going forward. Compare to our 18-19 year olds, Jack H, Ferguson, Buononotte, Enciso etc...

 

[Bald Head]

This, I'm afraid, remains to be tested. they've made the rght noises. Which is good. But are yet to properly nail a really powerful club - one, say, owned by a petro-state or a well connected American Billionaire.

I'm hearing increasingly sympathetic noises from the media towards the newly rich clubs. I think it was David Orstein (but might be wrong) speaking to a set of punters on BBC the other day and (almost) everyone agreeing how jolly unfair it was that 'ambitious' clubs like Newcastle are being restrained from spending when there is next to no chance of them going bunkrupt Which is, apparently, 'what the FFP rules are there for'. I don't know if this is just certain people understanding where their interests lie (more money in the game = ever higher salaries and trebles all round, ching ching). Or whether there are some more 'direct' conversations going on to ensure that everyone is gradually brought round to expressing the view that restricting Saudi Arabia from spending whatever it wants, to help divert attention from their murdering ways, is somehow 'bad for the game we love'. But I definitely sense a concerted campaign coming to push back and make sure that the likes of Chelsea, Man City and Newcastle are able to get back to their mega-spending ways. And yes, I suspect that will involve a return of the '(Saudi based?) Superleage idea at some stage. When they've lined up their ducks so as not to get ambushed by these annoying 'poor people that actually go to soccer games' again.

Personally I'm not optimistic. They are rich. We are stupid. And money = power = getting what you want in the end.

But by god, I hope I'm wrong!

I think you maybe correct.

 

[Guinness Boy]

Reece James is a crock but might fancy a pay day in the Saudi league before he is forced into retirement.

I can't see Reece James liking Saudi at all.

 

[Jim in the West]

A few lines from an article on Chelsea's predicament, in The Athletic today: "Some sources close to the dressing room, speaking anonymously to The Athletic in order to protect relationships, have suggested coaching on tactical elements is limited and players are essentially playing off the cuff."

 

[Triggaaar]

they certainly assumed European, probably Champions League revenue for possibly this and definitely next season.

You'd think so. With what they've spent it seems impossible they could come close to meeting FFP. They should be relegated to the national league.

 

[Triggaaar]

And yes, I suspect that will involve a return of the '(Saudi based?) Superleage idea at some stage.

Not sure why it would be Saudi based, they don't have the fans at have. But regardless, I don't care, as long as we keep our league and European Cup etc (by whatever name) and they have nothing to do with it.

 

[Triggaaar]

A few lines from an article on Chelsea's predicament, in The Athletic today: "Some sources close to the dressing room, speaking anonymously to The Athletic in order to protect relationships, have suggested coaching on tactical elements is limited and players are essentially playing off the cuff."

That makes no sense though

 

[Milano]

The super league is dead, all EPL clubs signed the charter, they would be kicked out the EPL.
The next problem is that they will introduce it by stealth, e.g 5 clubs in the UCL, but with Chelsea in 11th it doesn’t matter, let’s keep the ****s there.

 

[JamesAndTheGiantHead]

Chelsea fans must be both very nervous and angry.

Poor bastards haven’t won a Champions League in nearly 3 years.

 

[highflyer]

Not sure why it would be Saudi based, they don't have the fans at have. But regardless, I don't care, as long as we keep our league and European Cup etc (by whatever name) and they have nothing to do with it.

Only tongue in cheek in terms of being based in Saudi. But I am sure they are manouvering to be involved in some way - and very obviously seeking to build one or two teams of overpaid, ethically challenged, ex-'superstars' that will be box office (eg have players that TV viewers in India and the US will have heard of) enough to play in such a league.

 

[Triggaaar]

Only tongue in cheek in terms of being based in Saudi. But I am sure they are manouvering to be involved in some way - and very obviously seeking to build one or two teams of overpaid, ethically challenged, ex-'superstars' that will be box office (eg have players that TV viewers in India and the US will have heard of) enough to play in such a league.

As a Brighton fan, I wouldn't care. Although I would feel sorry for the fans of those clubs (in it) who didn't want it.

 

[Insel affe]

The old boy isn't happy

No sympathy, he is a self righteous, cantankerous, shiny shite.