[Misc] Moon Landing, are YOU are conspiracy theorist?

[Baldseagull]

I'd like to know what real benefits to mankind have come from it?

Personally, all I can see is the freeze dried space food and the space dust I used to love as a kid in the 80s and then as an adult, the Race for Space album by Public Service Broadcasting. And don't give me that Tempur shite, tried one of their pillows - fecking awful.

What a waste of money.

If we can't get millions of people off Earth and living in space then this world is doomed. It's our only hope.

Well, you don't know what the benefits might be before you go. You can be sure you will learn things, but you can't know in advance how useful that knowledge will be in future.
There are clear benefits from space programs overall, but attempting manned missions to the moon maybe not so clear or direct benefits.
A bit like F1, the spin off technological developments are useful for everyone.

 

[Diablo]

I'd like to know what real benefits to mankind have come from it?

Personally, all I can see is the freeze dried space food and the space dust I used to love as a kid in the 80s and then as an adult, the Race for Space album by Public Service Broadcasting. And don't give me that Tempur shite, tried one of their pillows - fecking awful.

What a waste of money.

If we can't get millions of people off Earth and living in space then this world is doomed. It's our only hope.

Send illegal immigrants to the moon ??

 

[Albion my Albion]

They were brilliant. Sorry, just checked, you can of course still but them.

The other day I put my mobile in my pocket and accidently purchased ball point pens by getting them from a website. Butt Buying!

 

[Baldseagull]

I voted 'fence'. But hear me out...

In reality I do believe that the moon landings happened.

But if I were going to choose a conspiracy theory to believe in, and defend, this would be high on the list. Here are a few thoughts:

Faking the moon landings would be hardly less crazy than some of the stuff the US govt actually did get up to during the cold war. The US had lost their collective minds and it seems that the government could justify, and get away with, almost anything in the name of 'fighting communism'. And the levels of command and control were probably strong enough to make them think they could get away with it.

There was a really strong incentive. Beating the Ruskies was EVERYTHING then.

Faking the landings would have been easy enough. BUT, as I am sure (haven't read the whole thread) has been stated many times, the challenge would be keeping the truth hidden. For ever. That would be almost impossible. BUT actually doing it also seems 'almost impossible'. They had less computing power available back then than any one of us now carries around in the phone in our pocket*. The technology was so (relatively) basic and there were so many unknowns. And the tasks involved were so complex. How did they know it would all work? Their test rockets exploded, but they still pursuaded people to sit on top of an unstable tin can full of fuel. Then they had to rely on some meccano covered in tin foil to land and take off again. And to be able to find each other again in orbit and couple up...How did they know they wouldn't hit a soft patch and sink, or topple on landing? I mean they pretty much landed it by tbe seat of their pants FFS. So many risks, so much to go wrong.

So.while I think it was, on balance, easier to do it than to fake it and cover up...by golly, it's a close run thing. When people talk about how absurd it is to imagine it isn't true they never take into account how genuinely absurd it is that it IS true. The more you find out about how it all worked, the more extraordinary it seems.

* no idea if this is true but it's the sort of thing people say that sounds true.

Getting a passenger plane to fly at mach 2 was pretty incredible, I have seen concorde take off and land, but never seen or heard it break the sound barrier, so maybe it was a fake, and they just made every passenger lie about what time they took off and landed.

 

[Not Spanish Dave]

Never questioned it myself but recently I have spoken to younger people who are CONVINCED it never happened.

Up there with the flat earth society for me

You?

As a boring random fact, My family emigrated to Spain in 1969 and we reached the French/Spanish border as it was happening. Customs were glued to their tiny black and white tvs and we were just waved through with no checks at all.

I try to be........not very good at it though

 

[7dialssouthpaw]

long thread, tuppence theory, (my wife's) - the landing happened, the pictures are fake (cinema, propoganda reasons, basically). meaning that any pictures taken up there were too poor quality/too classified for the general public.

 

[Curious Orange]

I work with some people who will pursue a hypothesis even though they have worked out that it is false, simply because they can easily raise research funding to 'test' it, and publish papers on the topic, milking it for shits, giggles, promotion, and the opportunity to raise more grant income as a reward for all their good work (the money raised and the papers published). These people are not interested in 'the truth'

The genuinely bright people want to test a hypothesis properly, and are clever enough to thnk of a killer experiment which more often than not will show the hypothesis is incorrect. Allowing them and others to move on.

People can easily find 'reasons' why the moon landings were fake if they cherry pick camera angles, coincidences of events, and so on, from the millions of such items available, and use them to construct a perverse narrative. I am guessing people do this to attention-seek and/or monetize the fake controversy.

But then you could just stick them in front of a telescope and show them the landing sites...

 

[birthofanorange]

But then you could just stick them in front of a telescope and show them the landing sites...

We don't have telescopes powerful enough (certainly on Earth) that are powerful enough to show anything other than a general area. Some of the hoax fan-boys actually think we should be able to see the hardware which the astronauts left behind. Because it can't be done, they consider this 'evidence' of a hoax.
The mind boggles.

 

[Hugo Rune]

25% of Britons think the moon landing was a hoax! WFT? Who did the other 10% vote for in the last election?

 

[andy_lee007uk]

Your signature is ‘f***ing cretin’. I’ll leave it there.

Don't feel you have to leave it there sweetcheeks x

 

[Bry Nylon]

A bit like F1, the spin off technological developments are useful for everyone.

Tell that to ATS. It took the ****s two days to change the tyres on my car