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RossyG

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Apparently, Socialist Worker sellers and Assange supporters (and it seems there’s a big crossover with those two groups) had showed up at the vigil. Often the case with high profile events: other groups jump on the bandwagon. According to the person who took this picture, some vigil attenders told them they were not wanted but to no avail. Note the BDS badge and Palestine flag: yet another unrelated cause.

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Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
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Withdean area
Menenez, Ian Thomlinson, to name just two but there are many many more to read about.
Btw, it says disband not discard.

Why are people hijacking a Sarah Everard thread with their long standing disdain for the Met?

This is getting silly now. 44,000 officers police 8m people, they put up with daily shit, spitting and violence.

In an organisation that size there are undoubtedly thuggish officers, some rotten apples. One’s been charged and not faced his day in court yet, so let due process take place.

The Met has improved beyond recognition since its corrupt past (Stephen Lawrence, bribes) and racist past. No doubt there’s work to do, as there is in our society in general.

This is becoming an unhelpful, when THE overriding issue is sexual violence from some males.
 


PILTDOWN MAN

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Sep 15, 2004
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“What a photo”

Celebrating the huge turn out of people to the vigil. What did you think I meant?

Photo taken by a female journalist who has tweeted she needs to be paid for it if it is used (media outlets). Blimey it's kicked off on twitter.
 


pastafarian

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Sep 4, 2011
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Sussex
Sussex police managed a protest/vigil pretty well this evening with 150 people.
One arrest, a man, and 8 penalty notices handed out.

https://www.sussex.police.uk/news/s...spond-to-gathering-in-valley-gardens-brighton

The Met have a bad name for wading in, and making any situation worse. Cressida Dick needs sacking and the whole force needs to be reformed.

Hopefully none of the 150 selfish twits attending will be enablers in a chain that results in someone ending up dying.
 






clapham_gull

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Aug 20, 2003
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Apparently, Socialist Worker sellers and Assange supporters (and apparently there’s a big crossover with those two groups) had showed up at the vigil. Often the case with high profile events: other groups jump on the bandwagon. According to the person who took this picture, some vigil attenders told them they were not wanted but to no avail.

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You get that at every event, especially in London.

But I remember Fathers For Justice turning up at one of our Falmer protests under the banner of "Fathers For Justice For Falmer."

You've also had the very far right outside Parliament campaigning for Brexit.

When Mark Thomas (the comedian) organised his protests against the law against protests he had someone very "militant" and serious turn up to campaign against "bits in cheese".

It has nothing to do with the Police reaction to tonight. If they had engaged none of this would have happened, They bottled it.
 


clapham_gull

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Aug 20, 2003
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Photo taken by a female journalist who has tweeted she needs to be paid for it if it is used (media outlets). Blimey it's kicked off on twitter.

Not sure her being female is relevant. If she was there in a professional capacity taking photos for her employer she is within her rights to ask to ask media outlets for a credit.
 




e77

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May 23, 2004
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Apparently, Socialist Worker sellers and Assange supporters (and it seems there’s a big crossover with those two groups) had showed up at the vigil. Often the case with high profile events: other groups jump on the bandwagon. According to the person who took this picture, some vigil attenders told them they were not wanted but to no avail. Note the BDS badge and Palestine flag: yet another unrelated cause.

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Sadly the Tankies get in everywhere. They also have a sizeable crossover with antivaxxers.
 


vagabond

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May 17, 2019
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Brighton
Why are people hijacking a Sarah Everard thread with their long standing disdain for the Met?

This is getting silly now. 44,000 officers police 8m people, they put up with daily shit, spitting and violence.

In an organisation that size there are undoubtedly thuggish officers, some rotten apples. One’s been charged and not faced his day in court yet, so let due process take place.

The Met has improved beyond recognition since its corrupt past (Stephen Lawrence, bribes) and racist past. No doubt there’s work to do, as there is in our society in general.

This is becoming an unhelpful, when THE overriding issue is sexual violence from some males.

Well said. I think it’s easy to criticise the police but they by and large have a very difficult job. Tonight being a good example. They don’t make the laws of the land, but they have to uphold them.

The government have decreed we should enforce social distancing, and if what I’ve read is correct, this public vigil was not authorised to go ahead. Adding to that various elements are attending this vigil, (which in essence makes it more of a “protest” rather than a peaceful vigil). The poor coppers attending this event now have to try and police a hostile group whilst trying to uphold the law. They can’t win.

Thunder Bolt has raised 2 credible cases of mishandling by the MET. But one of those is going back 15 years or so. And with a huge national scale institution there are of course going to be imperfections, mistakes made. Of these 2 cases mentioned, they were the actions of an individual not of the Met as a whole.

It’s totally understandable people are upset over this story, I think everyone is (women AND men). But to criticise the policing institution seems slightly juvenile to me. Baring in mind this institution have very quickly identified and arrested the accused in quite a short time frame.
 


Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
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Apparently, Socialist Worker sellers and Assange supporters (and it seems there’s a big crossover with those two groups) had showed up at the vigil. Often the case with high profile events: other groups jump on the bandwagon. According to the person who took this picture, some vigil attenders told them they were not wanted but to no avail. Note the BDS badge and Palestine flag: yet another unrelated cause.

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Can people rent space on him with yet another acronym sticker?
 




GT49er

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You get that at every event, especially in London.

But I remember Fathers For Justice turning up at one of our Falmer protests under the banner of "Fathers For Justice For Falmer."

You've also had the very far right outside Parliament campaigning for Brexit.

When Mark Thomas (the comedian) organised his protests against the law against protests he had someone very "militant" and serious turn up to campaign against "bits in cheese".

It has nothing to do with the Police reaction to tonight. If they had engaged none of this would have happened, They bottled it.
They bottled it? Bollox! The people moaning about police brutality are moaning because they didn't bottle it - instead they waded in to a mob of covid spreading law breakers. There is some whataboutery going round about other gatherings the police didn't wade into. The fact is, the police should have waded into them too - so get tore into the Glasgow police, not the Met.
 




clapham_gull

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Aug 20, 2003
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They bottled it? Bollox! The people moaning about police brutality are moaning because they didn't bottle it - instead they waded in to a mob of covid spreading law breakers. There is some whataboutery going round about other gatherings the police didn't wade into. The fact is, the police should have waded into them too - so get tore into the Glasgow police, not the Met.

Wading into some peaceful women holding a vigil for a recently murdered local resident and throwing them into a back of a police van.

Good look.

You've clearly not up to speed with the lead up to this event. When I used to phrase "bottled it", I was referring the discussions before, not the events tonight.
 




PILTDOWN MAN

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Not sure her being female is relevant. If she was there in a professional capacity taking photos for her employer she is within her rights to ask to ask media outlets for a credit.

Why you have to be so condescending on every thing I post I don't know why, but you come over a bit of a dick if honest.

The relevance of her being a women in this instance is some of the abuse SHE has received for being a women wishing to "profit" from this event and not for being a journalist. That is relevant for if it was a male I doubt those idiots abusing her wouldn't do the same to a man. I'm glad to say many are supporting her.
 


Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
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They bottled it? Bollox! The people moaning about police brutality are moaning because they didn't bottle it - instead they waded in to a mob of covid spreading law breakers. There is some whataboutery going round about other gatherings the police didn't wade into. The fact is, the police should have waded into them too - so get tore into the Glasgow police, not the Met.

The police were dealing with thousands of football supporters, common sense was not to wade in.

They bided their time, then in George Square made 28 arrests and issued many more Lockdown fines.
 


vagabond

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May 17, 2019
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Brighton
Wading into some peaceful women holding a vigil for a recently murdered local resident and throwing them into a back of a police van.

Good look.

You've clearly not up to speed with the lead up to this event. When I used to phrase "bottled it", I was referring the discussions before, not the events tonight.

Let’s be honest though. What we’re seeing there was not a peaceful vigil.
 


clapham_gull

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Aug 20, 2003
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Why you have to be so condescending on every thing I post I don't know why, but you come over a bit of a dick if honest.

The relevance of her being a women in this instance is some of the abuse SHE has received for being a women wishing to "profit" from this event and not for being a journalist. That is relevant for if it was a male I doubt those idiots abusing her wouldn't do the same to a man. I'm glad to say many are supporting her.

Then we agree. I give you the same advice I give everyone who gets annoyed from responses on social media. If you don't like people replying, don't post.
 




Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
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Why you have to be so condescending on every thing I post I don't know why, but you come over a bit of a dick if honest.

The relevance of her being a women in this instance is some of the abuse SHE has received for being a women wishing to "profit" from this event and not for being a journalist. That is relevant for if it was a male I doubt those idiots abusing her wouldn't do the same to a man. I'm glad to say many are supporting her.

I got your female point the first time.

In the Bristol and Clapham vigils, some speakers turned on male hacks and photographers with “vultures” and “not your space”.
 


PILTDOWN MAN

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Sep 15, 2004
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I got your female point the first time.

In the Bristol and Clapham vigils, some speakers turned on male hacks and photographers with “vultures” and “not your space”.

Thanks I think it was relevant to my post and not hard to see why but ho hum.
 


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