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[News] Middle East conflict
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SeagullinExile
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How sad. Replying to himself!
Was just about to post this myself.
Full video report is here:
Who was behind the Gaza hospital blast – visual investigation
So what do we actually know about the hospital blast - and the contradicting claims by Israel and Hamas, which is designated a terrorist organisation by the UK? It's been impossible to carry out any independent verification - but we’ve been examining the evidence presented by both sides so far.
www.channel4.com
fly high
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So still as clear as mud.
Interesting mentality to label a number of people anti-Semitic in public
Even if the conversation is faked, it still doesn't mean it wasn't a Gaza-launched missile gone wrong, and that does feel like the most likely explanation currently.
A security expert type was being interviewed on 5Live around 4:30 yesterday afternoon, and a point he made repeatedly was "Neither side have any interest in the truth on this", ie being seen by the world to be on the right side of this incident is the most critical thing to be achieved.
A security expert type was being interviewed on 5Live around 4:30 yesterday afternoon, and a point he made repeatedly was "Neither side have any interest in the truth on this", ie being seen by the world to be on the right side of this incident is the most critical thing to be achieved.
nicko31
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I just hope whoever did it didn't do it deliberately, and I'm not sure finding out who did it will help the current situation.
Indeed, but if someone is confident that you were not the perpetrator you would think that they would not go out of the way not to purposefully manufacture or utilise fake material. On the assumption it was fake - it seems an odd strategy although saying that Israel has plenty of previous in this regard.
I do enjoy these threads because tend to learn more about an important subject. From what I understand Israel say the war is only against Hamas. I heard an interview who I admit seemed anti Israel saying over the years many have been killed in the Westbank where there are no Hamas. To those more knowledgeable Is this true and why
Sky News are reporting 60 killed in the West Bank in the last week, most of who were protesting outside IDF bases about the activities in Gaza.
Justice
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Seagull58
In the Algarve
The video on the BBC website shows a missile exploding in mid-air, either from a missile interception or an engine failure, then falling to earth and exploding on the ground. The BBC has geolocated the ground explosion to the hospital carpark (or thereabouts). This very strongly indicates that it was a Hamas rocket and that the ground explosion was the unused fuel. This corresponds to the scene in the carpark.
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Well, I see it like this…
- Something bad has happened.
- The enemy has sprinted off the line in the publicity race
- Media right around the world are leading that we’ve bombed a hospital and killed hundreds
In the scenario you’re chasing the game and would likely look for a multi-pronged approach to try and turn things round.
Maybe, just maybe, in the scenario you would consider a bit of fabrication as worthwhile to ensure the ultimate truth, ie where the missile came from, is the story that gets told.
I know absolutely nothing about information during warfare, but I guess I could see how it could happen.
This is an unfortunate and reprehensible tactic - unfortunately used spuriously but effectively against many left leaning Labour members over the last few years
fly high
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That is what I got out of the BBC analysis as well. Channel 4 seems to be muddying the water more. Guess we will never really know the truth.
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Seagull58
In the Algarve
Fatah controls the West Bank, from a Palestinian standpoint, but Hamas does have a presence there.
The deaths usually occur when demonstrators throw rocks and petrol bombs.
This is a quite brilliant article written by a Brighton resident:
Mired in trivia, British political discourse is utterly unfit for times of war | Rafael Behr
Wise heads choose their words painstakingly and experts feel speechless, but here the void is filled with ignorant chatter, says Guardian columnist Rafael Behrwww.theguardian.com
I'm a big fan of Behr. His podcast, Politics on the Couch, is always worth a listen.