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Silent Bob

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Dec 6, 2004
22,172
If and when Capello goes the next England manager will be Stuart Pearce he is being groomed for the job
Imagine if Steve McClaren was not ginger... and an even worse manager.
If that happens the only positive is it won't last long because we won't be qualifying for a thing.
 




k2bluesky

New member
Sep 22, 2008
803
Brighton
No manager worth a jot would want the job only someone looking for a big pay day before they retire without the stress of a real managers job - FA don't waste your money, £1 mill tops on a one year contract, renew only if progress is made.
 


Gwylan

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
31,841
Uffern
I'm starting to think a lot of these players are uncoachable, their lives are so completely removed from reality that they see a manager as an irrelevance. Any attempt to generate a team spirit, either by the manager playing the tyrannical sergeant major type, or by appealing to their patriotic spirit "come on lads, it's us against the world" is met by complete, bored apathy.

I said this other day. We've had every type of manager recently: the technician, the disciplinarian, one of the lads, the spiv, the patriotic cheerleader - they've all failed. Everyone's picking on Capello but would another manager do better?
 


Tricky Dicky

New member
Jul 27, 2004
13,558
Sunny Shoreham
Shame Mourinho already got another job, at least he might have managed to make Terry & his Chelsea buddies play well.

I don't think Terry should ever play for England again. Apart from everything else he brings as baggage - he's just not good enough.
 


Tricky Dicky

New member
Jul 27, 2004
13,558
Sunny Shoreham
If and when Capello goes the next England manager will be Stuart Pearce he is being groomed for the job

He may be in theory, but whenever revolution happens and we get rid of the England mananger, everybody alsways wants a clean slate to start from. I have no idea of his input, IF (and I stress IF) Capello is to carry any blame, he could be seen as part of the problem.

Personally my blame was totally on the players apart from two things that worry me ...

Your two best players are Rooney and Gerrard and he compeltely negates one of them by playing him out of position - the stubborness/unwillingness to even try Gerrard just behind Rooney worries me.

The second thing is, when we depserately needed a goal last night and could still have got back into it, he brings on Heskey - who wouldn't score if we played continuously to the next world cup, when you have Crouch on the bench with an outstanding goal record - albeit against lesser opposition, but still more chance of scoring.
 




Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,983
Surrey
This call to remove Capello is based on 4 or 5 weeks of failure following on from 2 years of success. Let's be clear, it's been a long time since England qualified for a major tournament with such ease.

I'd rather the top brass tried to identify what went wrong once the tournament was upon on us. Personally, I think his plan fell apart at literally the point when Rio Ferdinand got injured, and this was compounded by King's predicable injury. I simply can't imagine England being as crap with a centre back pairing of Terry and Ferdinand.

Incidentally, it took Capello a couple of seasons to get it right in Madrid. I wouldn't rush him out of the door just yet. Lets give him one more tournament. Lets see him try and get us qualified for Poland/Ukraine and then see us through that tournament. My gut feeling is that Capello will have learnt from his mistakes.
 


Gwylan

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
31,841
Uffern
Your two best players are Rooney and Gerrard and he compeltely negates one of them by playing him out of position - the stubborness/unwillingness to even try Gerrard just behind Rooney worries me.

He did ...against France in 2008. It was a failure
 


Acker79

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NSC Patron
Nov 15, 2008
31,921
Brighton
Your two best players are Rooney and Gerrard and he compeltely negates one of them by playing him out of position - the stubborness/unwillingness to even try Gerrard just behind Rooney worries me.

He did ...against France in 2008. It was a failure

And here are some of the comments about it:

I have just re-read the reviews of that night in Paris. 'Did not link reliably,' The Guardian. 'Can surely be struck from Capello's list of bright ideas,' The Independent. 'As dull as ditchwater . . . vapid and one paced,' The Times. 'Made little impact on the game,' The Scotsman. 'Lacked ideas, lacked inspiration, lacked the killer instinct,' The Daily Mail.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/worldcup2010/article-1288451/MARTIN-SAMUEL-Rooney-Gerrard-That-didnt-work-lads.html
 






Pantani

Il Pirata
Dec 3, 2008
5,445
Newcastle
This call to remove Capello is based on 4 or 5 weeks of failure following on from 2 years of success. Let's be clear, it's been a long time since England qualified for a major tournament with such ease.

I'd rather the top brass tried to identify what went wrong once the tournament was upon on us. Personally, I think his plan fell apart at literally the point when Rio Ferdinand got injured, and this was compounded by King's predicable injury. I simply can't imagine England being as crap with a centre back pairing of Terry and Ferdinand.

Incidentally, it took Capello a couple of seasons to get it right in Madrid. I wouldn't rush him out of the door just yet. Lets give him one more tournament. Lets see him try and get us qualified for Poland/Ukraine and then see us through that tournament. My gut feeling is that Capello will have learnt from his mistakes.

Capello won Serie A in his first season at Milan and had two seperate seasons at Real winning La Liga both times, so you are making things up to prove your argument. His problem is he sticks too rigidly to 442. If you doubt Capello's culpability (it is not all his fault though) read this, http://www.zonalmarking.net/2010/06/27/germany-4-1-england-tactics/#more-3713
 


Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,983
Surrey
Capello won Serie A in his first season at Milan and had two seperate seasons at Real winning La Liga both times, so you are making things up to prove your argument. His problem is he sticks too rigidly to 442. If you doubt Capello's culpability (it is not all his fault though) read this, http://www.zonalmarking.net/2010/06/27/germany-4-1-england-tactics/#more-3713
No I'm not making things up, I just thought he was in charge when he won the title with Beckham, and could have sworn that was his second season...
 






Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,983
Surrey
It's a fair cop guvnor. Capello Out. He's shit. :wink:

But seriously, would you give him another tilt at a major tournament? I'm beginning to wonder whether *anyone* could mould this collection of players into a top class team if someone with Capello's pedigree can't do it.
 


Mr Banana

Tedious chump
Aug 8, 2005
5,491
Standing in the way of control
He did ...against France in 2008. It was a failure

You can't base judgement on one go. Rooney has progressed dramatically since then, partly because Ferguson has frequently played him up on his own with an attacking midfielder behind him. Fab tried it for two training sessions in South Africa, so he must have been thinking about it. But he bottled it.

You can criticise the FA and the players for a lot of things, but yesterday's game was the result of tactical ineptitude. Capello has to take responsibility. His position is untenable.
 








Acker79

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Nov 15, 2008
31,921
Brighton
You can't base judgement on one go. Rooney has progressed dramatically since then, partly because Ferguson has frequently played him up on his own with an attacking midfielder behind him. Fab tried it for two training sessions in South Africa, so he must have been thinking about it. But he bottled it.

Or perhaps he saw that it still wasn't working?
 


Mr Banana

Tedious chump
Aug 8, 2005
5,491
Standing in the way of control
Hard to imagine it completely failing. The evidence from Rooney's performances in that position for Man Yoo and Gerrard's behind Torres for Liverpool should have given him bigger guts to go for it. It's not like he couldn't have changed it during the game if it hadn't worked out.
 




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