Meeting Gerry Adams

[Billy the Fish]

Considered that's not just you adding *your* own political slant to things? From your postings on this thread alone you've shown yourself to have very obvious leanings to one side...

Obviously, but so have you and a few others, that's why I posted in the first place. As has been said, there's little point in counting up who caused more deaths.

 

[Cian]

Obviously, but so have you and a few others, that's why I posted in the first place. As has been said, there's little point in counting up who caused more deaths.

Have I? All I've mentioned is loyalists bombing the non-combatant country which I'm from and reside in. I've taken no side in the dispute in Northern Ireland primarily because I couldn't give two fucks about the shithole.

If there's "little point in counting up" why did *you* raise the issue in the first place, then?

 

[Billy the Fish]

If there's "little point in counting up" why did *you* raise the issue in the first place, then?

*I* didn't. *Simster* did.

 

[Cian]

*I* didn't. *Simster* did.

OK, why did you attempt to contradict him then, if there's apparently no point to it?

 

[NS Herald]

The meeting seemed to go as well as it could.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/7071981.stm

Colin Parry's comment that coming face to face with the Sinn Fein leader was hard, but "easier than holding my son dying" begin's to give you a feel for the emotion of such a situation.

Obviously many many people died or were injured during the troubles but my point was how would any of us feel in his circumstances? It seems time has helped the healing process on all sides and pray to god that others don't have to suffer the same trauma of losing their child in this way.

 

[Nibble]

Have I? All I've mentioned is loyalists bombing the non-combatant country which I'm from and reside in. I've taken no side in the dispute in Northern Ireland primarily because I couldn't give two fucks about the shithole.

If there's "little point in counting up" why did *you* raise the issue in the first place, then?

Agrred on some areas of Northern Ireland, but there are some lovely areas there.

 

[Dandyman]

Have I? All I've mentioned is loyalists bombing the non-combatant country which I'm from and reside in. I've taken no side in the dispute in Northern Ireland primarily because I couldn't give two fucks about the shithole.

If there's "little point in counting up" why did *you* raise the issue in the first place, then?

Not condoning the actions of Loyalist extremists but did n't one leader of that "non-combatant" country end up on gun-running charges?

 

[clapham_gull]

Oh god, I'm going to start to sound like the incredible bullshitting man...

Having posted on another thread regarding how I was near the Stockwell shooting I was also in Warrington when the bombs went off..

I was living there at time.

Everyone forgets what happened in Warrington the WEEK before.

 

[clapham_gull]

There was something particularly nasty about the bombing in the town centre.

One bomb was planted one side of the road, went off and people ran into a bomb planted on the other side.

Anyway - does anyone remember what happened the week before and it's significance to peace time England ?

 

[Frutos]

Everyone forgets what happened in Warrington the WEEK before.

Forgive my ignorance, but what did happen in Warrington the week before the bombs?

 

[clapham_gull]

Its a long story, but the bombs in the centre were planted by a couple of guys (or one?) who were returning to the area after a failed bombing the week before.

The bomb was planted at a gas works and if succesful would have been one of the worst explosions (in a residential area) since the war.

I lived a couple of roads away and I'm CONVINCED that powers that be suspected something was up.

I saw one of those bomb robots scanning round a TA base the day before.

Anyway - the bomb didn't detonate and they fled.

Can't quite remember the details but they hijacked a car (with the driver put in the boot). The car was stopped by a policeman doing a routine check.

One of the guys panicked and shot the policeman dead.

I'm pretty sure he's never been caught.

They returned a week later to plant the bombs in the town centre.

I remember the explosion very clearly - I was in the bath when I heard it.

 

[Starry]

they did denote one of the gas work chambers and it was about 3 week before.

 

[clapham_gull]

My point is that the policeman has been forgotten in the whole story.

 

[Bry Nylon]

Oh god, I'm going to start to sound like the incredible bullshitting man...

Having posted on another thread regarding how I was near the Stockwell shooting I was also in Warrington when the bombs went off

I'm waiting for the "I was in a tunnel in Paris when this black Mercedes came careering out of nowhere!" thread...

 

[clapham_gull]

I'm waiting for the "I was in a tunnel in Paris when this black Mercedes came careering out of nowhere!" thread...

Funnily enough..., I was driving through Paris in my white Fiat trying out my new flash gun when..

 

[Cian]

Not condoning the actions of Loyalist extremists but did n't one leader of that "non-combatant" country end up on gun-running charges?

Yes, the most corrupt leader in the history of the state. The shrivelled old **** finally died last year, and the state is finally reclaiming as much of the money he embezzled from it, and extracted from (similarly corrupt) businesspeople. He was our Ferdinand Marcos in some ways... he was also sacked from his party and government office for doing so, anyway. The trial also showed beyond doubt that the permanent government - as opposed to renegade TDs - was providing absolutely zero funding for the IRA despite the mud the UK government and press was trying to sling at the time.

Frutos - The week before in Warrington there was another bombing, IIRC - the gasworks.

Nibble - the north coast of NI is very scenic and its an area I travel to a lot, and Belfast is, for all its architectural 'redesigning' in the 80s, quite a nice city. Unfortunately, most of the people over the age of 30 are the nastiest people you're ever going to meet. I've got quite a few good friends from Northern Ireland - including one whose parents disapprove of him associating with "fenians" - and they'd only be in their 40s. And there's still many parts of NI where I wouldn't feel secure leaving me D-registered car alone for ten minutes let alone overnight.

 

[Buzzer]

Come on MYOB. They are all as corrupt as each other. Martin McGuinness was (is still?) head of the IRA in Londonderry. Gun-running, drugs, bank robberies, extortion - in it up to his perm.

Personally speaking, I think I would be unable to control my feelings if I met McGuinness or Adams. I think I'd dropkick the murderous cnuts.

Duplicitous in murder, both of them.

 

[Cian]

Come on MYOB. They are all as corrupt as each other. Martin McGuinness was (is still?) head of the IRA in Londonderry. Gun-running, drugs, bank robberies, extortion - in it up to his perm.

Personally speaking, I think I would be unable to control my feelings if I met McGuinness or Adams. I think I'd dropkick the murderous cnuts.

Duplicitous in murder, both of them.

At no stage have I offered any defence for what they did/are doing, did I?

 

[Buzzer]

No, you didn't. Sorry - not trying to start a fight. Just saying that it's a bit difficult trying to say who's the most corrupt Irish politician, North or South, Loyalist or Republican.

McGuinness is (I believe) as corrupt if not more so.

That was all.

Honest

 

[Barrel of Fun]

Adams, McGuiness et al could have put a stop to all the troubles long ago. They are thundercunts with egos bigger than the Emerald Isle.