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Deportivo Seagull said:
Certainly not Boris as he couldn’t lead a bunch of alcoholics into a pub.

I don’t need to get my head down as arguably I’ve been busier now than for the last few years. Brexit will bring opportunity(Boris and his cronies have certainly been taking advantage) but for a significant number of people it will bring hardship for which they have no control over.
Saying people need to learn this skill is pretty offensive to be honest. Boris certainly doesn’t have it, he is a disrupter who feeds on the carnage that he leaves in his wake, trump is similar. He’s a bumbling idiot which he shows every time he opens his mouth. The sooner he joins corbyn in obscurity the better.

With Brexit it’s not about the party, just someone who can negotiate a hard bargain. The present cabinet is shocking so not exactly spoilt for choice, Sunak is the pick of a very bad bunch. Starmer would be my choice for his legal background if nothing else. He’s centre enough not to make me nervous and the added bonus is that he’s not a **** like Boris.


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I worry about the anger you have for Boris, most people love him. It really appears you just dislike him because of his inability at times to get his words out. This is just a characteristic, if it were JRM you wouldn't like him either because he has a plum within his mouth and has a slow delivery.

You underestimate Boris and so do a lot of the lefties even know you are central. He already is doing some great stuff and will continue to do so. Judge him at the end of his tenure, he has only just got started. I expect a change by then maybe Hancock or Sunak may have a crack.
 




Sorrel

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Bold Seagull said:
Even before the pandemic, certain local authorities have been offering free school meals to parents through school hubs, generally schools that maintain holiday clubs outside of term time. So in many cases if would be going into a school (might not be your child's normal school) and qualifying for a meal each day. During lockdown some schools were able to offer delivery of a school lunch. A friend of mine who is a head would deliver school meals and check on his pupils at the same time. The alternative was vouchers, the drawback being you've got not control over the nutritional value or what they're being used against.
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Cheers - so it kind of makes sense over some holidays - though Christmas will not be quite so easy (as I expect schools will be closed then for everyone).

I can see why the idea appeals to people - make sure children have a decent meal each day (not sure about weekends) - but also I can see why longer term it might not be a such a good idea as it could embed dependency. Schools are going towards the idea that all pupils should be fed each day for "free", so a logical extension would be for certain people to get free meals every day, not just on schooldays.

I wonder if the equivalent of the British Restaurant (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Restaurant) would work here - the idea being to ensure that everyone can get decent food.
 




Deportivo Seagull

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Mouldy Boots said:
I worry about the anger you have for Boris, most people love him. It really appears you just dislike him because of his inability at times to get his words out. This is just a characteristic, if it were JRM you wouldn't like him either because he has a plum within his mouth and has a slow delivery.

You underestimate Boris and so do a lot of the lefties even know you are central. He already is doing some great stuff and will continue to do so. Judge him at the end of his tenure, he has only just got started. I expect a change by then maybe Hancock or Sunak may have a crack.
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Most people don’t love him and the fact that you think they do is most amusing. Doing great stuff isn’t an argument unless you are a five year old.
I dislike him for his incompetence, the fact that he went to Eton is incidental. But if I was his father i would ask for my money back.
JRM is just obnoxious and isn’t particularly liked by anyone,
You really need to get this idea that I don’t like public school boy out of your head .... my daughters boyfriend went to private school. He’s a lovely lad however he’s not into football which is slightly concerning.


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Mouldy Boots said:
I worry about the anger you have for Boris, most people love him. It really appears you just dislike him because of his inability at times to get his words out. This is just a characteristic, if it were JRM you wouldn't like him either because he has a plum within his mouth and has a slow delivery.

You underestimate Boris and so do a lot of the lefties even know you are central. He already is doing some great stuff and will continue to do so. Judge him at the end of his tenure, he has only just got started. I expect a change by then maybe Hancock or Sunak may have a crack.
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He’s SO good but also you expect to see him replaced by the next election?
 












jackalbion

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I know we are wandering off topic here, and I understand your points, but as a centrist who steadfastly refused to say 'Because I was on the wrong side in the referendum I now think we must Get Brexit Done - at any cost', I feel proud of my stance. I haven't gone on any marches, and the most I've done about Brexit since the referendum is shake my head sadly (and emote endlessly on NSC) but I'm buggered if I'm changing my spots so that thicky northern gammon might like me more, and neither should anyone else in labour. Brexit is a tory problem now (if it wasn't before, and always) and labour shoud keep well out of it. Invoking failure to back Brexit at any cost, as an alternative to blaming Corbyn, for labour's electoral failure is delusional. I'm not and will never 'back' Brexit. I 'lost', but I ain't changing sides as a consequence. You may as well say that because the tories won the last general election then we should all join their party and support their agenda. No thanks.

And being a centrist is certainly a fix for the labour party, now, in the minds of the all important swing voter. Corbyn was not centrist nor a Remain campaigner; he was a Bennite Euroskeptic who failed to offer anything to the Brexit debate (he certainly did not 'fight' against the Brexit 'process'); he also never shook off the stink from his historical displays of comradeship with anti-Israel Islamist antisemites, and with the Irish republican bombers. What more do you need to account for a lack of suppport?

Labour absolutely did not lose the last election primarily because centrist labour MPs were 'pushing' for a second referendum. I pay attention but I can't name one of these folk off the top of my head. I just looked them up and most of them buggered off out of labour long before the last general election, and formed a failure of a party to 'oppose' Brexit ("The group was founded by MPs Luciana Berger, Ann Coffey, Mike Gapes, Chris Leslie, Gavin Shuker, Angela Smith and Chuka Umunna, who simultaneously announced their resignations from the Labour Party on 18 February 2019"). If you think that lot leaving the labour party is why labour lost the general election you need to give your head a wobble. It's time that lazy trope of Corbyn-supporting Labour party members was flushed away. The greatest PM the UK never had was John Smith, not Jeremy Corbyn. Let it go! :lolol: :thumbsup:
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Yes we are getting fairly off topic, I understand your points but while those people did leave labour I don’t think the party shook the pro EU sentiment (for whatever reason). I voted for Corbyn as leader twice mainly because I agree ideologically with many of his views on nationalisation of certain public industries. I don’t think it was also only centrist MPs who were pro EU but did form a large chunk of it. Pretty much the entire party could not just get on with brexit and accept its result which was electoral suicide. On the brexit point we will see at the next election whether the people who changed sides change back, because I think they will, and seats with very slim Tory majorities will fall. At the end of the day we both probably want the same end goal just marginally different so there’s no point arguing about it
 


DavidinSouthampton

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The Wizard said:
Turning a thread about Marcus Rashford to a politics rant in one post.

Must be a record even for NSC :lolol:
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Isn't that the whole point? Rashford is a footballer AND a political figure.
 


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Thunder Bolt

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Government policy has gone from’Eat out to help out’ to ‘Starve a kid to save a quid’
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One West Country Tory is saying the restaurants and cafes were helped so much, they can now afford to help the children!
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Dick Swiveller

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Think I still have a couple of Fray Bentos pies in the cupboard. After Tory MPs advice yesterday, can anyone recommend a good dealer who will let me swap them for drugs? Do the Vegetarian ones go for more or less?
 


A1X

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Dick Swiveller said:
Think I still have a couple of Fray Bentos pies in the cupboard. After Tory MPs advice yesterday, can anyone recommend a good dealer who will let me swap them for drugs? Do the Vegetarian ones go for more or less?
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Depends if you're wanting vegan crack, really.

That sounds wrong.
 




Thunder Bolt

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