[Albion] Manchester United vs Brighton & Hove Albion *** Official Match Thread ***

[Seagull58]

No he wasn’t.

But anyway, even if you do genuinely believe that Webster has super human powers to get back to him, it’s hardly a disgraceful decision is it when the majority of people and all neutrals think it’s a red?!

The ref gave a yellow, correctly. Kevin "Friend to the big 6" persuaded him to change it to a red.

 

[Pavilionaire]

If we beat Burnley all will be well and we can forget about this performance.

Arguably, Duffy would deserve to start against Burnley, regardless of Dunks's red.

 

[BN41Albion]

Just under 1,300 probably. Sold out though.

Surely sold out will be more than that!?

 

[Seagull58]

Yeah. It was a red. He was through…..

Pains me to say it but VAR was correct.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

That is demonstrably untrue. The replays show that Webster was well in front of him.

 

[Stato]

Townsend's comment when Maguire grabbed Moder with two hands and threw him to the floor was that 'He was just that bit stronger'. He even mumbled a 'phew' at the end relieved that his team had won. I've never heard such an obvious 'I'm supporting one team' commentary from a player who wasn't openly supporting a team he had once played for.

In fact it was so obvious that I went to look up where he's from to see if he is likely to be a United fan. He was born in Maidstone. Case closed.

 

[BeHereNow]

Disagree completely and pleased to see Potter, who never has a go at refs, agrees that there was no need for a VAR intervention because it wasnt clear and obvious. It's a bollocks decision from that bloody awful Australian VAR ref and once he sends the on field ref over he's never going to go against him.

Exactly. Think about the goal scoring opportunity we would’ve had if Shaw didn’t foul Lamptey.

The speed of the ball and Webster coming across doesn’t make it clear and obvious.

Ref ruined the game, really didn’t have to.

You have to look at the whole picture. We had a blatant goal scoring opportunity denied when Maguire fouled Welbeck last season, wasn’t given, but this was. It’s a joke.

 

[MTSeagulls]

Only some one eyed Brighton fans don’t think that’s a red.

But we live in the land of the blind - referees.

 

[Lower West Stander]

That is demonstrably untrue. The replays show that Webster was well in front of him.

Not for me I’m afraid.

Yes Webster was in front of him but it was too much to make up and Elanga was moving at pace.

Whichever way you look at it - Dunk made a bad error.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

 

[paulfuzz]

But we live in the land of the blind - referees.

And of course "they don't know what there doing" depending on which way the decision has gone

 

[BeHereNow]

Surely sold out will be more than that!?

It’s the allocation the club took. We most likely wouldn’t have sold another block considering the circumstances.

 

[R. Slicker]

Surely the Fact that Potter is questioning the sending off decision, says something.
Has anybody ever seen him question a decision up to now?

 

[maltaseagull]

I just wanna say 3 things:
1. i HATE ronaldo
2. Modar my fav player QUALITY
3. We must convert more chances as we could've been 2 or 3 up at HT and game almost over. Heads high the score did not reflect the performance. Bounce back Saturday.

I hate Mctominay more. Gobshite little man at a big club.

 

[clapham_gull]

Red all day long and the only mistake being the ref didn't give it in the first place.

 

[Seagull58]

Red all day long and the only mistake being the ref didn't give it in the first place.

Utter rubbish.

 

[GT49er]

Disagree completely and pleased to see Potter, who never has a go at refs, agrees that there was no need for a VAR intervention because it wasnt clear and obvious. It's a bollocks decision from that bloody awful Australian VAR ref and once he sends the on field ref over he's never going to go against him.

Spot on - and spot on by Potter, who knows better what he's talking about than any punter on NSC for my money. It was a matter of judgement as to whether Webster would have covered it - and TBF it was a close call. But that is the whole point - it was a close call so whichever the on-field ref. gives it, it is not a clear and obvious error.

 

[B-right-on]

Spot on - and spot on by Potter, who knows better whhat he's talking about than any punter on NSC for my money. It was a matter of judgement as to whether Webster would have covered it - and TBF it was a close call. But that is the whole point - it was a close call do whichever the on-field ref. gives it, it is not a clear and obvious error.

Exactly. This. All day long.

 

[Sarisbury Seagull]

Manchester United vs Brighton & Hove Albion *** Official Match Thread ***

Spot on - and spot on by Potter, who knows better whhat he's talking about than any punter on NSC for my money. It was a matter of judgement as to whether Webster would have covered it - and TBF it was a close call. But that is the whole point - it was a close call do whichever the on-field ref. gives it, it is not a clear and obvious error.

Clear and obvious is irrelevant once VAR has suggested the ref look at it. The ref didn’t have to change his mind.

 

[GT49er]

That is demonstrably untrue. The replays show that Webster was well in front of him.

The replays show that Webster might have got there - or might not. Whatever decision the ref. gives - for or against a red card - is by definition not a clear and obvious error. Not clear and obvious enough to be overturned.
I struggle to see why this basic and clear principle is so difficult for English VAR operators to understand. VAR in other countries doesn't seem to have this same pathetic neediness to get involved at any cost, to massage their own self-importance, regardless of whether intervention is required.

 

[The Fits]

If it’s being debating so much afterwards surely that’s a pretty big indication it isn’t clear and obvious?

 

[GT49er]

Clear and obvious is irrelevant once VAR has suggested the ref look at it. The ref didn’t have to change his mind.

Clear and obvious is relevant. If it is not clear and obvious, VAR has no business getting involved. 'Hmm .. I've seen them given' for example, or 'That could gave gone either way' are not clear and obvious enough for the VAR to poke its nose in.