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vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,274
Nach 60 Jahre endlich merkt man. Jeder sollte germanischen, Deutschland regiert die Welt oder tat. Seit etwa zwei Jahren. Auf eine ernste Note. Um auf ein Land ohne Geld zu nehmen und noch die industrielle Kraftzentrum Europas ist sehr beeiNach 60 Jahre endlich merkt man. Jeder sollte germanischen, Deutschland regiert die Welt oder tat. Seit etwa zwei Jahren. Auf eine ernste Frage. Um auf ein Land ohne Geld zu nehmen und noch die industrielle Kraftzentrum Europas ist sehr beeindruckend. Stellen Sie sich vor, wenn wir, warum wir das beste Land in der Welt erinnert. Arbeite hart, schwer zu spielen. Wenn wir nur remeber den ersten Teil dieser Aussage.

All that yet when you take a dump you have to bash through your turds with a wooden bat in case you are riddled with worms ?
 


beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
36,031
Sorry but owing to German purity laws we can't and won't get anywhere near their beers and sausage.

the Reinheitsgebot has lead to largely uniform beers imo, sure its better than the average beer but its not a high benchmark. one would take Czech lagers over most German ones, Belgium ales, English ales, even American ales have far more interesting things going on. their really good beer is outside the original rules anyway, ie wheat beer. i dont know if theres anything rules for sausages, im not saying they are bad just not as great as some make out. the baseline is better but there isnt the variation or peaks that can be found in a good British sausage. we make some cracking sausages here, and the many german sausages ive had have been good but not the highwater mark of the craft.
 


Blackadder

Brighton Bhuna Boy
Jul 6, 2003
16,122
Haywards Heath
Watched the BBC2 documentary, this evening, on the rise of the German Auto industry. (9pm just after Top Gear)

We really did miss a trick after the war. I was at school in the 70s and remember the never ending strikes by car workers in this country.

Both sides were to blame. In Germany, management recognised car workers as skilled engineers and had representatives on the board to work for the common good.

In Britain it was always confrontational. Poor management allowed wankers like Red Robbo to "call out the workers" for the smallest of disputes. We never recovered. Instead of being our rivals, Germany now owns our most well known brands
 


Mellotron

I've asked for soup
Jul 2, 2008
32,482
Brighton
Germany beats England:

Football
Punctuality
Public Transport
Common Sense applied to life
Bundesliga
Motor Industry

England beats Germany:

All other sports of note
Sense of humour
Culture (films, music)
Fashion
War
 




pastafarian

Well-known member
Sep 4, 2011
11,902
Sussex
The Germans make cracking sausages.....thats a fact.
They have also devised a toilet system where one can inspect what has gone in to match what is going out.........now that is progress.
They also tax you if you are religious.

whats not to like?
 




Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
62,763
The Fatherland
the Reinheitsgebot has lead to largely uniform beers imo, sure its better than the average beer but its not a high benchmark. one would take Czech lagers over most German ones, Belgium ales, English ales, even American ales have far more interesting things going on. their really good beer is outside the original rules anyway, ie wheat beer. i dont know if theres anything rules for sausages, im not saying they are bad just not as great as some make out. the baseline is better but there isnt the variation or peaks that can be found in a good British sausage. we make some cracking sausages here, and the many german sausages ive had have been good but not the highwater mark of the craft.

I partially agree with your beer comments. IMHO Germany has consistently excellent beer from 1300 breweries all over the country which is fresh, flavoursome and generally of high quality. But the flip-side of the purity law is that it hinders experimentation with different styles; hence the variety of beers is incredibly narrow. The US and the UK are the go-to places for beer but there are a number of brewers in Germany who are starting to break the rules and produce different styles now.
 






Gwylan

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
31,840
Uffern
I partially agree with your beer comments. IMHO Germany has consistently excellent beer from 1300 breweries all over the country which is fresh, flavoursome and generally of high quality. But the flip-side of the purity law is that it hinders experimentation with different styles; hence the variety of beers is incredibly narrow. The US and the UK are the go-to places for beer but there are a number of brewers in Germany who are starting to break the rules and produce different styles now.


I don't think that's wholly true. By chance, there's a piece in this month's What's Brewing about German beers: the theme being that different towns and cities have their own distinctive style. Obviously, we know about pilsener but there's kolsch from Cologne and Berlinerweisse (and many others). The point is that Germany has much more regional differentiation than we have: we produce many excellent beers but there's no marked difference between beers from, say, the west country and from the west midlands. And while the US does produce many excellent beers from craft breweries, they're really hard to find - you can walk into any German bar at random and find a decent beer, probably only one in 50 US bars sells something drinkable
 






Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
62,763
The Fatherland
I don't think that's wholly true. By chance, there's a piece in this month's What's Brewing about German beers: the theme being that different towns and cities have their own distinctive style. Obviously, we know about pilsener but there's kolsch from Cologne and Berlinerweisse (and many others). The point is that Germany has much more regional differentiation than we have: we produce many excellent beers but there's no marked difference between beers from, say, the west country and from the west midlands. And while the US does produce many excellent beers from craft breweries, they're really hard to find - you can walk into any German bar at random and find a decent beer, probably only one in 50 US bars sells something drinkable

Fair point, there is regional variation e.g. Alt-beer from Dussledorf. I was trying, unsuccessfully, to make a point about the UK having a wider range of distinctly different ales which I think is the case (e.g. pales, IPAs, bitters, stouts, porters, lagers, amber, mild etc ). If you pop into a regular bar here you will struggle to find much beyond an (excellent) pils or a wheat beer. I'm not an expert by any means but whilst Germany has more regional variation the UK seems, to me, to have more variation as a whole.
 
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Brovion

In my defence, I was left unsupervised.
NSC Patron
Jul 6, 2003
19,888
And from the Guardian how Germans admire and are trying to be more English:

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/may/19/british-moaners-germans-uk-self-destructive
Good article. No one would deny that the Germans and Germany piss all over us in some respects, but we do run ourselves down too much. Herr Tubthumper, like a modern day Lord HawHaw, does have form in this in telling us how much better the Germans are. Often when reading his posts I'm reminded of that great (British) lyricist, W.S. Gilbert:
"The idiot who praises in enthusiastic tone, all centuries but this and every country but his own" (The Mikado)
 


Behind Enemy Lines

Well-known member
Jul 18, 2003
4,887
London
Watched the BBC2 documentary, this evening, on the rise of the German Auto industry. (9pm just after Top Gear)

We really did miss a trick after the war. I was at school in the 70s and remember the never ending strikes by car workers in this country.

Both sides were to blame. In Germany, management recognised car workers as skilled engineers and had representatives on the board to work for the common good.

In Britain it was always confrontational. Poor management allowed wankers like Red Robbo to "call out the workers" for the smallest of disputes. We never recovered. Instead of being our rivals, Germany now owns our most well known brands

It was a really bad programme. A lazy, tired script, peppered with war cliches, it told us absolutely nothing new. Not even any analysis of German wirtschaftswunder. A great shame as expected so much more from Dominic Sandbrook.
 




Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
62,763
The Fatherland
Good article. No one would deny that the Germans and Germany piss all over us in some respects, but we do run ourselves down too much. Herr Tubthumper, like a modern day Lord HawHaw, does have form in this in telling us how much better the Germans are. Often when reading his posts I'm reminded of that great (British) lyricist, W.S. Gilbert:
"The idiot who praises in enthusiastic tone, all centuries but this and every country but his own" (The Mikado)

Suggesting my scribbles remind you of WS Gilbert is a welcome change to being called a self-loathing bore. Thank you.
 


Brovion

In my defence, I was left unsupervised.
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Jul 6, 2003
19,888
Suggesting my scribbles remind you of WS Gilbert is a welcome change to being called a self-loathing bore. Thank you.
No, I said you remind me of Lord HawHaw! "Jairmany calling! Jairmany calling!"
 


Herr Tubthumper

Well-known member
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Jul 11, 2003
62,763
The Fatherland
No, I said you remind me of Lord HawHaw! "Jairmany calling! Jairmany calling!"

Oh, I thought the "his" in "reading his posts" was me. Either way Lord HawHaw is still a step up from self-loathing bore.
 


Yesterday I drank 5 liters of Augustiner, Brau Munchen. It was a good day.
That is all.
 




Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
62,763
The Fatherland
Yesterday I drank 5 liters of Augustiner, Brau Munchen. It was a good day.
That is all.

was there any schweinhaxe swimming around in the Augustiner?
 




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