Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

[Questions]

He isn't a Leaver. He is dyslexic.

Bloody good effort then.

 

[Mr Bridger]

I live in Shanghai and things are pretty normal. Back to the office on Monday!

I was going to give you a thumbs up , but didn’t want to touch it........ Just in case.

 

[dingodan]

Apparently the Uber driver was told that because his infected fare was less than a 15 minute journey, he is fine. Sounds like they didn't even test him.

That seems incredibly complacent to me.

 

[Blue3]

Based on data from patients with this coronavirus in Wuhan which has a population of 11 million 60,000 have had the virus which is 6.6% of the population

So if it became a pandemic and 6.6% of the UK contracted the virus that's just about 4 million people infected

the WHO says

82% develop mild symptoms = 3.2 million
15% develop severe symptoms =270,000
3% become critically ill = 15000

I know it's fag packet maths but assuming those with severe and those with critical conditions need a specialist hospital bed that's roughly 300,000 but they will not all be ill at the same time, the WHO is saying an outbreak would last 4 months so again fag packet maths says around 135,000 extra beds would need to be found that's on top of the fact it's flu season and other winter bed pressures I think the NHS is going to struggle

 

[Soylent Blue]

Based on data from patients with this coronavirus in Wuhan which has a population of 11 million 60,000 have had the virus which is 6.6% of the population

So if it became a pandemic and 6.6% of the UK contracted the virus that's just about 4 million people infected

the WHO says

82% develop mild symptoms = 3.2 million
15% develop severe symptoms =270,000
3% become critically ill = 15000

I know it's fag packet maths but assuming those with severe and those with critical conditions need a specialist hospital bed that's roughly 300,000 but they will not all be ill at the same time, the WHO is saying an outbreak would last 4 months so again fag packet maths says around 135,000 extra beds would need to be found that's on top of the fact it's flu season and other winter bed pressures I think the NHS is going to struggle

You need to redo your maths.

 

[Insel affe]

It's not so much a question of whether or not you're a bad dad, more about whether you are a bad person.

Look, I'm sure it's going to be ok. And I wasn't there, so only you can tell if you've properly followed the public health advice re fever symptoms, but you really don't have to be at work. Sure it's incredibly inconvenient for you to miss time, as it is for the rest of us, but in a years time would a day or even a fortnight really affect you or your employer that much? It's up to an employer to put in place procedures for staff absence which is inevitable from time to time and more likely in the current climate.

Like I say, I'm sure it will be fine, but if the small-ish chance of containment is going to work, people are going to have to think less about their short term needs.

I'm sure the woman who got an uber to A&E found it to b to most convenient thing for her in the short term as well.

The things is they advise you take 14 days in isolation (possibly at home) , who can do that !!, and how many bosses would love that, you may get away with that in a big corporation, but small bushiness would suffer. furthermore I am sure there are people out there that would take advantage of the situation.

I am sure it is a cold, considering when symptoms started and the incubation period before it breaks out into a cold.

 

[dingodan]

Based on data from patients with this coronavirus in Wuhan which has a population of 11 million 60,000 have had the virus which is 6.6% of the population

So if it became a pandemic and 6.6% of the UK contracted the virus that's just about 4 million people infected

the WHO says

82% develop mild symptoms = 3.2 million
15% develop severe symptoms =270,000
3% become critically ill = 15000

I know it's fag packet maths but assuming those with severe and those with critical conditions need a specialist hospital bed that's roughly 300,000 but they will not all be ill at the same time, the WHO is saying an outbreak would last 4 months so again fag packet maths says around 135,000 extra beds would need to be found that's on top of the fact it's flu season and other winter bed pressures I think the NHS is going to struggle

The total number of infections is 60,000 today. But three weeks ago the number was said to be 1,400. Hopefully the numbers won't carry on increasing like that because if they do we will be looking at 100M+ people in 6 weeks time.

The death rate is said to be 2%, but that assumes that everyone who has the virus and hasn't died already will survive. If you look at deaths vs recoveries the death rate is closer to 20%.

So, worst case scenario, 20M dead by April.

 

[Triggaaar]

While that is somewhat reassuring, I am still really struggling to believe that 15 minutes of close contact with an infected person is required for transmission.

Yeah, it obviously isn't. I wonder if 15 minutes is the average amount of time or something?

I'm also a little confused about the quarantine times, we are ending quarantine after 14 days, but there have been suggestions of an incubation period of up to 24 days.

Maybe it's possible not to have symptoms for 24 days, but tests would show that you have the virus within 2 weeks?

 

[Triggaaar]

Apparently the Uber driver was told that because his infected fare was less than a 15 minute journey, he is fine. Sounds like they didn't even test him.

That seems incredibly complacent to me.

That's BS right there.

 

[Triggaaar]

Based on data from patients with this coronavirus in Wuhan which has a population of 11 million 60,000 have had the virus which is 6.6% of the population

So if it became a pandemic and 6.6% of the UK contracted the virus that's just about 4 million people infected

Right, so no one else in Wuhan is going to contract coronavirus then. That's good news.

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

Based on data from patients with this coronavirus in Wuhan which has a population of 11 million 60,000 have had the virus which is 6.6% of the population

So if it became a pandemic and 6.6% of the UK contracted the virus that's just about 4 million people infected

the WHO says

82% develop mild symptoms = 3.2 million
15% develop severe symptoms =270,000
3% become critically ill = 15000

I know it's fag packet maths but assuming those with severe and those with critical conditions need a specialist hospital bed that's roughly 300,000 but they will not all be ill at the same time, the WHO is saying an outbreak would last 4 months so again fag packet maths says around 135,000 extra beds would need to be found that's on top of the fact it's flu season and other winter bed pressures I think the NHS is going to struggle

get a new fag packet and start again..

although bizarrely despite having significant maths errors in your first, 4th and 5th sums, you have never less ended up with roughly the right answer (3% of 6.6% of UK pop is 12,000)

 

[Lyndhurst 14]

This whole thing is beginning to sound more and more like an episode of 'The "X" Files'

 

[knocky1]

get a new fag packet and start again..

although bizarrely despite having significant maths errors in your first, 4th and 5th sums, you have never less ended up with roughly the right answer (3% of 6.6% of UK pop is 12,000)

3% of 6.6% of uk pop is 300,000. For the next few weeks, then it may need daily adjustments.

 

[Seagulls over Essex]

3% of 6.6% of uk pop is 300,000. For the next few weeks, then it may need daily adjustments.

I believe 3% of 6.6% of a UK population of 66 million is approx 131,000.

 

[sparkie]

I believe 3% of 6.6% of a UK population of 66 million is approx 131,000.

3% of 6.6% of uk pop is 300,000. For the next few weeks, then it may need daily adjustments.

The 6.6% figure in the post referenced, should be 0.55% if the original maths was correct.

 

[The Antikythera Mechanism]

China cannot be compared to the UK when compiling statistics. China is a country of some two billion people, the majority of who live in squalid and unsanitary conditions. It is these people who do not have access to immediate healthcare who are suffering. The billionaires who control this “Communist State” don’t want this to be broadcast to the world. Hopefully they will learn from this.

 

[Triggaaar]

get a new fag packet and start again..

although bizarrely despite having significant maths errors in your first, 4th and 5th sums, you have never less ended up with roughly the right answer (3% of 6.6% of UK pop is 12,000)

3% of 6.6% of uk pop is 300,000.

I believe 3% of 6.6% of a UK population of 66 million is approx 131,000.

 

[dingodan]

"There are deep concerns laboratory tests are incorrectly telling people they are free of the coronavirus.

Stories in several countries suggest people are having up to six negative results before finally being diagnosed."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51491763

 

[dingodan]

"China’s state-owned medical products maker is collecting plasma from the blood of people who have recovered from the novel coronavirus after discovering it helped critically ill patients.

China National Biotec Group Co. has been using this plasma, which contains highly potent antibodies, to treat more than 10 seriously ill patients since Feb. 8, the company said in a statement on its official WeChat account Thursday night. It claimed that those receiving the treatment improved within 24 hours, with reduced inflammation and viral loads along with better oxygen levels in the blood."

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-from-recovered-patients-for-coronavirus-cure

 

[Hugo Rune]

Deadly Chinese Wuhan virus - Covid-19

Just one ‘active’ case in the UK currently.

Hopefully we’ve seen the last of Covid-19.