Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

[Weststander]

SAGE warning today cases could rise by as much as 80% when isolation ends and if people return to pre pandemic behaviours, we need to ensure the latter is not the case, it's not over yet folks we should still exercise some caution.

It’s over. Omicron is as weak as dishwater for non clinically vulnerable folk.

Time to get on with living a life now and people are already.

 

[LamieRobertson]

SAGE warning today cases could rise by as much as 80% when isolation ends and if people return to pre pandemic behaviours, we need to ensure the latter is not the case, it's not over yet folks we should still exercise some caution.

Best get out on Lyme Regis High St then, as they r all being so naughty

 

[worthingseagull123]

SAGE warning today cases could rise by as much as 80% when isolation ends and if people return to pre pandemic behaviours, we need to ensure the latter is not the case, it's not over yet folks we should still exercise some caution.

It is over.

You need to find a new fad to worry about.

 

[e77]

It is over.

You need to find a new fad to worry about.

Not sure I would describe something that has killed nearly 6 million people worldwide as a fad.

 

[dsr-burnley]

SAGE warning today cases could rise by as much as 80% when isolation ends and if people return to pre pandemic behaviours, we need to ensure the latter is not the case, it's not over yet folks we should still exercise some caution.

Are SAGE saying that the current degree of "lockdown" is enough to reduce cases by half, more or less, compared with normal behaviour? Because if so, why did they go over the top with avoiding seeing your family and cancelling football and so forth, if all they needed do was to get a few people to socialise less, and to get test and trace semi-working?

 

[Marty___Mcfly]

SAGE warning today cases could rise by as much as 80% when isolation ends and if people return to pre pandemic behaviours, we need to ensure the latter is not the case, it's not over yet folks we should still exercise some caution.

The modelling to date has been so inaccurate it is hard to take them seriously anymore.

I’m not clear on what change in behaviour they are envisaging beyond the end of testing asymptomatic people. People who are genuinely ill are still likely to stay at home?

 

[Fat Boy Fat]

The modelling to date has been so inaccurate it is hard to take them seriously anymore.

I’m not clear on what change in behaviour they are envisaging beyond the end of testing asymptomatic people. People who are genuinely ill are still likely to stay at home?

So you've never worked in an office where people come in with "a bit of a cold" and promptly spend the next few days coughing and sneezing over people.. or the infamous "man flu" behaviour!

People are selfish, especially when they're not going to get paid!

 

[LamieRobertson]

So you've never worked in an office where people come in with "a bit of a cold" and promptly spend the next few days coughing and sneezing over people.. or the infamous "man flu" behaviour!

People are selfish, especially when they're not going to get paid!

Maybe it’s because they need to pay the bills…does that really make them selfish if they have a family to support? Also, not everyone will take the route you suggest ..covid I imagine has changed many (not all) peoples approach.

 

[Fat Boy Fat]

Maybe it’s because they need to pay the bills…does that really make them selfish if they have a family to support? Also, not everyone will take the route you suggest ..covid I imagine has changed many (not all) peoples approach.

Apologies, bit of an over generalisation. I hope you're right about people changing their mentalities, employees and employers alike.

 

[Weststander]

So you've never worked in an office where people come in with "a bit of a cold" and promptly spend the next few days coughing and sneezing over people.. or the infamous "man flu" behaviour!

People are selfish, especially when they're not going to get paid!

That behaviour, seen through decades of working in offices including at countless clients, was 100% caused by dictatorial bosses forcing staff in with heavy colds or worse.

Staff would’ve liked nothing more than to have knocked the bug on its head by 2 or 3 days staying at home.

 

[Fat Boy Fat]

That behaviour, seen through decades of working in offices including at countless clients, was 100% caused by dictatorial bosses forcing staff in with heavy colds or worse.

Staff would’ve liked nothing more than to have knocked the bug on its head by 2 or 3 days staying at home.

So, will that change now or will bosses still have the same mindset?

 

[Weststander]

So, will that change now or will bosses still have the same mindset?

I predict ….. the same.

Due to a combination of a lust for money and being cynical bullies.

 

[dazzer6666]

That behaviour, seen through decades of working in offices including at countless clients, was 100% caused by dictatorial bosses forcing staff in with heavy colds or worse.

Staff would’ve liked nothing more than to have knocked the bug on its head by 2 or 3 days staying at home.

It used to be, but no so much in the last 10-15 years in my experience. Spent far more time telling people to go home than come in. with WFH being progressively more routine 1-2 days a week for most anyway in that period it's become far less of an issue (conscious I was lucky enough to be in an environment where sick leave was generous, fully paid and not heavily scrutinised). There were always a few martyrs though who thought struggling in would make them look better

 

[LamieRobertson]

It used to be, but no so much in the last 10-15 years in my experience. Spent far more time telling people to go home than come in. with WFH being progressively more routine 1-2 days a week for most anyway in that period it's become far less of an issue (conscious I was lucky enough to be in an environment where sick leave was generous, fully paid and not heavily scrutinised). There were always a few martyrs though who thought struggling in would make them look better

I use to be one of those (30/40 years ago)….but not to look good it was just me putting the effort in …works for me now being self employed and of course I’m working on my own …sigh

 

[Weststander]

It used to be, but no so much in the last 10-15 years in my experience. Spent far more time telling people to go home than come in. with WFH being progressively more routine 1-2 days a week for most anyway in that period it's become far less of an issue (conscious I was lucky enough to be in an environment where sick leave was generous, fully paid and not heavily scrutinised). There were always a few martyrs though who thought struggling in would make them look better

Imho it depends on the organisation size. You worked I think for MASSIVE organisations.

In the last decade I experienced myself and visited many clients, all SME’s.

Where owner managers deem all those calling in with colds/flu as either liars fancying a duvet day, or they believe in the ‘man up’ ethos when someone’s got a cold.

A huge emphasis on money at all costs.

Some brought in zero (above SSP) sick pay, ever!!

Ranging from the professions, nursing homes to manufacturers.

With domestic bills to pay, it drives ill staff into the workplace.

 

[dazzer6666]

Imho it depends on the organisation size. You worked I think for MASSIVE organisations.

In the last decade I experienced myself and visited many clients, all SME’s.

Where owner managers think those calling in with colds/flu are either liars fancying a duvet day or they believe in the ‘man up’ ethos when the person has got a cold.

A huge emphasis on money at all costs.

Some brought in zero (above SSP) sick pay, ever!!

Ranging from the professions, nursing homes to manufacturers.

With domestic bills to pay, it drives ill staff into the workplace.

Yep, exactly why I qualified my comment re sick leave etc…..in my last firm barely a **** was given as half the staff didn’t seem to do any work anyway

 

[Thunder Bolt]

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[Chicken Run]

Strap in girl’s and boys, it seems despite the huge number of Covid infections this winter, the overall number of deaths has remained in line with what we would normally see during winter.

That suggests Covid is no longer an exceptional threat, so it’s understandable the response taken should be reviewed. Covid will now have to compete with other spending priorities.

Time to go back to work!!!!

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PM to set out plans for lifting Covid restrictions
The prime minister is due to set out his plans for "living with Covid" to MPs shortly.

We're expecting Boris Johnson to announce all remaining legal restrictions in England, including the requirement to self-isolate after testing positive, will be lifted.

Free testing is also expected to be scaled back, amid reports of tensions between the Department of Health and the Treasury over the cost.



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[A1X]

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[Fat Boy Fat]

Have I read this right, free tests have been scrapped for the clinically vulnerable, unless they have symptoms?

Someone please tell me I have misunderstood.