ManxSeagull
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On this basis can those who attend mass on a Sunday refuse to work on a Sunday.
M & S pander to this crazy world !
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Kent Seagull
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I thought M&S was a Jewish owned company, it certainly used to be. If selling pork is acceptable to jews why should Muslims have a problem?
Creaky
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Creaky
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Opting out of Sunday working
All other shop workers and betting shop workers can opt out of Sunday working by giving 3 months’ notice.
An employer needing staff to work on Sundays must tell them in writing that they can opt out. They must do this within 2 months of the person starting work - if they don’t, only one month’s notice is needed to opt out.
Staff can opt in to Sunday working, but mustn’t be treated unfairly if they opt out.
https://www.gov.uk/sunday-working
There is no opt out for other religions whose "Holy Days" may be on different days of the week.
All other shop workers and betting shop workers can opt out of Sunday working by giving 3 months’ notice.
An employer needing staff to work on Sundays must tell them in writing that they can opt out. They must do this within 2 months of the person starting work - if they don’t, only one month’s notice is needed to opt out.
Staff can opt in to Sunday working, but mustn’t be treated unfairly if they opt out.
https://www.gov.uk/sunday-working
There is no opt out for other religions whose "Holy Days" may be on different days of the week.
BUTTERBALL
East Stand Brighton Boyz
Was walking around town today. More foreign accents than English. Brighton and indeed Britain losing it's national identity very sadly.
The vast majority of them don't have a problem.
Creaky
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Surely one of the characteristics of Britain is the huge variety of accents in a relatively small area
Lord Bracknell
On fire
No different.
http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/114233/marks-spencer-say-jewish-staff-do-not-have-handle-pork
Marks & Spencer has confirmed that Jewish employees do not have to serve pork products at tills to its customers, if it goes against their religious beliefs.
The chain confirmed that, in the same way a Muslim member of staff could refuse to handle pork and alcohol, a Jewish employee could decline to sell pork sausages, bacon rashers and sea-food.
A M&S spokesperson said: “We recognise that some if our employees practise religions that restrict food or drink they can handle, or mean they cannot work at certain times.
“M&S promotes an environment free from discrimination and so, where specific requests are made, we always make reasonable adjustments to accommodate them, whilst ensuring high levels of customer service.”
The spokesperson said that a Jewish employee could also opt not to work on Shabbat.
The store chain was founded by Polish-Jewish refugee Michael Marks and Thomas Spencer in the late 19th century.
GreersElbow
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All right-wingers are anti-Islam? Interesting.
All you lefties are Stalinst and North Korean apologists.
Oh wait, you are.
What identity? I've had this discussion with plenty of people who keep talking about this 'national identity'. What is it? The north and south divide also divides among identity lines, so where does it emerge into one?
Creaky
Well-known member
Sounds like a good employer with flexible working practices to meet the religious needs of all its employees.
happypig
Staring at the rude boys
It doesn't forbid credit, it forbids interest; in the eyes of the Koran, interest or usury is "haraam" (naughty).
I have a credit card but have never paid a penny in interest.
GreersElbow
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Personally don't understand why people are criticising a private business with its absolute right to decide its own policy.
Lord Bracknell
On fire
No private business has an "absolute right" to decide its own employment policies. Every business has to comply with employment law.
And then there is good practice ... for example, flexible working practices to meet the religious needs of employees. Many employers have adopted policies that respect religious practices - and it's perfectly reasonable to debate particular examples.
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Will M&S and other large supermarkets start labelling their meats Halal soon? If M&S are going to put stupid policies in place like this then you need to treat everyone fairly including your customers. Is it fair to say that most of us have eaton or bought Halal meat in our lifetime without even knowing it?
m20gull
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So according to the BBC M&S have apologised. Apparently it is not company policy after all. Instead they allow hypocritical practice to be dealt with flexibly by allowing such staff to perform other roles. Fair to everyone.
Handling bottled alcohol is not the same as refusing to work Sundays. The text of the Christian religion (among others) prohibits working on the holy day.
Handling bottled alcohol is not the same as refusing to work Sundays. The text of the Christian religion (among others) prohibits working on the holy day.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
It doesn't. Jewish people were prohibited from working on the Sabbath which started at sunset on Friday evening to sunset on Saturday evening. Some churches then carried that into Christianity to apply to Sundays. Most churches now have morning & evening services so you can work and still go to a service.
somerset
New member
.... surely you meant to say, 'an ordinary member of the public',......??
somerset
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Nobody liked this image did they?,.... where will this little issue take us in the end eh?
