Maybe, but the current rules are very clear that STH points are earned for holding a STH not for attending.
Can you clarify whether "consecutive seasons" has to include the previous season?
I believe, from what others have said on here, that any break at all resets the counter back to 0.
Yep, I had a break and went to zero.
Thanks, I assumed that was the case.
Definitely start from zero…..one of our group did.
So from a loyalty points perspective, you're better off carrying on buying individual home games throughout the next season (95pts), than re-renewing (0pts) ?
No, because 1 STH point > a zillion Albion+ points.
Possibly but I think many more just went to have a good time, these are glory days for the club now and last season, obviously many more are going to be attracted now than at Potter's xG bemoaning height. And cup games on sale to everyone is just lovely and simple rather than having to cope with tiers and algorithms
This is a non-starter in my view, as it effectively closes the door further to those that are not in T1, as fewer tickets are available and they struggle to move up the tiers.
I agree with everything else you've written, but surely on the highlighted bit, "senior club officials" have a complimentary allocation just like players and coaches, and can allocate that to who they please?
Those were the days! Pay on the gate most away games so have a choice to find a pub or see the players arrive and potential jock comp tickets
Does that really stack up? You are taking Luton as the standard when it's the outlier fixture. Being in Tier 2 helps with a lot of games with bigger allocations than Luton (well it certainly has for me this season)
But that's good the +300 point thing - more Albion fans going away is a sign we are becoming a bigger club.Good thread. Re; points raised by S.T.U cgull / post #224. (I currently thought I was tier 1 but Luton told me otherwise).
I have been actively trying to get my son (Under 18) deep into guaranteed tier 2 territory (which of course is a constant game) so that he may have a fighing chance of getting to another Euro away game. He's gone from 220 to 295 this season. I'm not going to lie. it's cost me a fortune (but we've had a lot of fun.. Villa away aside). It's hard to do because when they are younger, they start off with less points and you can't get them on the points ladder very easily. You do have to do less favourable games, long trips... which of course is where the loyalty is rewarded.
The case for narrowing the tier 2 band/points is a valid one though I think because, to take my son 75 points up the LP table (Aug to now) is a sizable outlay. Each game probably averages out a £100 for him alone (match ticket, coach/train, food/drink etc.). For him this has meant x8 away games this season so far – which is pushing x3 times the amount his actual season ticket costs me.
Now, I know loyalty is not just mesaured by a financial outlay – but effort and time and support.. and of course going away with the Albion is just brilliant. But I think people of who have invested all the above (e.g. spent north of £800) to get into a strong position – it just seems a bit unfair to be lumped with people who are on the lower ladders of tier 2 (having maybe done 2-3 aways).
Or to put it simply, I do agree with many on here that the tier band is too wide presently, and puts people who are deep into tier two territory (or even within touching distance of tier 1) into a bunfight/melting pot with a completely different set of fans who can't, or have not invested as much. Overall, I feel the LP system is fair. It rewards super fans who dedicate themselves to every away game.. I have zero problem with that. Tier 2 bands could be improved though IMHO. A Tier 2A / Tier 2B? (cut-offs will always be pi**ed off though eh).
It's the price of success I guess (a rising tide.. and all that). It's not too hard to see that soon we could have a situation where tier 2 becomes a literal handful of tickets. Think someone said the other day, there are now approximately +3000 fans with +300 points.
It was a terribly made point. It is not that difficult to get to T2 with a Season ticket and the only incentive once in it unless you want to go every game is to do a handful of games to stay in it. It's a massive tier.
In total agreement with all that. It certainly is not a closed shop (was not the point I was making) and I too have had a ball going to these games with my lad and seeing him (and me) climb the LP ladder. These are indeed the glory days and practically every game (whereever, whenever) is a sell-out... just phenomenal. If I'd had gone to 2-3 more away games last year as well – both him and I would be in terrific position.
Do you know if the percentages are from all STs? Or those left after Tier 1 and so on?
