Lunacy of the town that turned Green

[symyjym]

The 10 pin bowling is unused because it is structurally unsafe - as is the ground above it. Everything else, you have pulled out your backside.

It was looked at by a structural engineers and deemed structurally safe.

"Jon Orrell, of Hemsley Orrell Partnership, carried out the inspection and said the area is currently supporting about 350mm of earth, which would weigh more than the proposed rink."

The story is here http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/9627993.King_Alfred_could_get_its_skates_on/

Not pulled out of my backside

 

[Chicken Run]

I would describe that article as a load of sensationalist crap, however, setting the article to one side I cannot wait for the greens to lose enough wards(probably to Labour) to lose overall control of our fine city.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Yeah because blind people all go rushing right across the Seven Dials ALL the time now without a carer or guide dog in sight!!

I'll take the advice of groups representing blind and partially sighted rather than Argus stats thank you. Each and every group has highlight how the new design, specifically without the barriers, is more dangerous for partially sighted and blind people. Given the nearly million pounds spent on the scheme to make it more "pedestrian" friendly it seems stupid to make it less friendly for this group of people. Two Green Councillors have defended the removal by saying it makes the area "look better".

And your evidence is...............................?!!

And as for the Greens being 'money-grabbing morons' - are you 12yo?!

Parking permits/ zones and pay parking/ meters were introduced and/or extended by previous Labour and Tory regimes and despite bull**** promises to review parking they will not rescind anything the Greens have done!

You've assumed my signature is about parking - it isn't. It's about them demanding ever more money via council tax, allotment fees and fees for sporting facilities. The later two being something you would expect the Greens to support not make even less accessible due to increases in fees. That said about parking fees, strange that they claim the residents parking scheme charges are ONLY to cover costs but Bristol can supply permits at half the cost ?

 

[vegster]

Seven Dials was incepted long ago and the public demanded that the tree was saved. I'd say a council listening to the tax payers was a progressive one.

The new roundabout is much better from my experience.

True, it used to be like the chariot races in The Colosseum and I always approached it expecting to be t-boned. Thankfully it is now difficult to get on to it at speed and as such there is a much smoother flow of traffic. Mind you, a few more people using their indicators wouldn't go amiss.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

2. Explain to us all where the finance is coming from for a 'state of the art leisure centre' because, unless you haven't noticed, the council sure has hell hasn't got it?!

Maybe by using the loan from public funds that they have now given to a private company who are already millions in debt to build the i360 and instead using it to fund a new leisure centre ?

 

[spring hall convert]

Getting a grant to upgrade a park is only a standard achievement that any council would have done.

What about something more committing like setting a standard for the King Alfred rather than trying to squeeze 450 residential units on the site in the new policy. They are quite happy to jump on the i360 for tourists but not a state of the art leisure centre for the tax payers.

We have one of the worst sports infrastructure in the country, and is clearly substandard.

What stopped other administrations doing something about the level for the 15 to 20 years it had been a shithole for then?

 

[symyjym]

What stopped other administrations doing something about the level for the 15 to 20 years it had been a shithole for then?

What stopped the Greens from embracing an ice skating facility at the King Alfred which would have been of a size on which ice hockey could have been played and other ice sports and competitions?

 

[spring hall convert]

What stopped the Greens from embracing an ice skating facility at the King Alfred which would have been of a size on which ice hockey could have been played and other ice sports and competitions?

So some good, some bad then.

 

[Albumen]

Regardless of any politics, I think the 7 dials redesign is a disaster.

Introducing a right turn going south at BHASVIC, whilst changing the roundabout to single lane and replacing pelican crossings with zebra crossings has meant large queues of frustrated motorists at most times of the day.

The single lane means that for any traffic pulling onto the roundabout they are entirely dependent on other motorists indicators (and we all know how bad those are !) for judging their exits. You can no longer use speed or position on the roundabout to help that decision.

Removing all barriers and replacing pelican crossings with zebra crossings means there is now a constant stream of pedestrians crossing roads from all angles and directions. (Lucky the motorists aren't distracted trying to guess other vehicles directions or frustrated by the inevitable delays).

Finally, extending the roundabout with paved areas for buses and large vehicles to turn would work very well if all pedestrians understood that they can't stand or walk on these areas when buses or large vehicles are approaching. (Those vehicles being distracted by the constant stream of pedestrians across the zebra crossings and trying to guess the exit of other vehicles).

I have been waiting a while to get this off my chest as I drive and walk that area most days and have seen a lot of very serious near misses since the 'improvements'. And before anyone starts the pedestrian/motorist thing, I am not judging, just telling it like it is.

I see the complete opposite. For cyclists and motorcyclists the previous design was a nightmare. Since the new roundabout I've not had a problem, it's great.

 

[symyjym]

I've asked a couple iof simple questions that you wont/ can't answer because, with respect, you don't appear to have a clue what you are on about! It's easy to spout soundbites without backing them up!

Now I have answered a couple of your questions, are you happy with the answers? At least give me a 1/10 rating

 

[symyjym]

So some good, some bad then.

More bad than good, it was a local resident spending a lot of time to bring this project to the community.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

True, it used to be like the chariot races in The Colosseum and I always approached it expecting to be t-boned. Thankfully it is now difficult to get on to it at speed and as such there is a much smoother flow of traffic. Mind you, a few more people using their indicators wouldn't go amiss.

Seven Dials is still just a traffic mess tho eh? Same as a shamefully huge chunk of town, just being used as a rat run.

 

[WATFORD zero]

I see the complete opposite. For cyclists and motorcyclists the previous design was a nightmare. Since the new roundabout I've not had a problem, it's great.

Going to have to be mature and sensible here and agree to disagree.

I feel we've let NSC down

 

[Albumen]

Going to have to be mature and sensible here and agree to disagree.

I feel we've let NSC down

*hangs head in shame*

 

[jessiejames]

Sorry but any party that have members going by the names of Jason Kitcat and Phelim Mac Cafferty, can not be taken seriously.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Seven Dials is still just a traffic mess tho eh? Same as a shamefully huge chunk of town, just being used as a rat run.

On the contrary, it has been much better since the changes. I think there have been less queues and the traffic flows well.
There was a lot of additional traffic there on Friday because that was part of the diversion from the sea front.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

On the contrary, it has been much better since the changes. I think there have been less queues and the traffic flows well.

I'm sure it does. It's more than a bit rubbish if you happen to be a pedestrian trying to circumnavigate the damn place tho.

 

[studio150]

It will be interesting to see what the outcome is at the next local elections, I would expect the Greens to lose many seats and wither away given that most fair minded people are fed up with the Greens.

Many last time voted Green as a protest vote which has turned into a joke administration despised by many and loved by a few.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

I'm sure it does. It's more than a bit rubbish if you happen to be a pedestrian trying to circumnavigate the damn place tho.

I do three times a week, and find it easier than I used to do.

 

[Not Andy Naylor]

I haven't liked many of the things the Greens have done on the council. But if the Fail hates them so much, they must be doing more right than I'd imagined ...