[Food] Lose 7lbs in November

[Weststander]

Aiming to go from 80kg to 70kg (176 to 154 lb) not going to happen in one month but hopefully this thread will help me make a good start.

Similar thinking here. To kick start an effort to eventually get down to a BMI of 24. I aspire to keeping this up until before the Xmas period.

Sharing progress might incentivise me.

 

[Triggaaar]

Nothing 'wrong' with it ... it just doesn't work for someone following a keto diet where 70/80% of your daily calorie intake should be fat.

You said "We both agree that low fat/fat free is a big no no for the reasons you stated", and the reasons Zeberdi stated were "Be careful of any low fat, fat free dairy products (or vegan alternatives) - they often have a very high sugar content and lots of additives."

It wasn't a discussion on a keto diet. Let's not be giving misinformation here. 0% FAGE Greek yoghurt is very good for you.

... other than it won't taste as good as a lovely creamy full fat Greek yoghurt

Yeah if you don't like it enough. I have it with porridge, raspberries and honey, or as a snack with raspberries and a few raisins. Yummy.

 

[jcdenton08]

Bloody hell, I mean it started with just shaving my facial hair into a comedy Hitler moustache for men’s health awareness, now I have to make actual lifestyle changes and be healthier?!

They keep moving the goalposts

 

[Triggaaar]

I think the best thing I could do to improve my health would be to reduce the amount of ultra processed food I eat (and same goes for the family).

Finding bread that isn't ultra processed would be nice (I don't think Tesco sell a single loaf of it).

Any tips of cutting down UPF would be nice (obviously cooking everything from scratch would work, but that's hard work, so any 'processed' as opposed to 'ultra processed' options would help.

 

[PascalGroß Tips]

You said "We both agree that low fat/fat free is a big no no for the reasons you stated", and the reasons Zeberdi stated were "Be careful of any low fat, fat free dairy products (or vegan alternatives) - they often have a very high sugar content and lots of additives."

It wasn't a discussion on a keto diet. Let's not be giving misinformation here. 0% FAGE Greek yoghurt is very good for you.




Yeah if you don't like it enough. I have it with porridge, raspberries and honey, or as a snack with raspberries and a few raisins. Yummy.

If you read my comments on this thread, I have mainly been talking about Keto and how it works. And it is absolutely true that many (not all) low/no fat products have added sugar or artificial sweeteners. I can't remember me saying anywhere that the 0% Fage yoghurt is unhealthy or high sugar?

So no 'misinformation' from me.

 

[Weststander]

I think the best thing I could do to improve my health would be to reduce the amount of ultra processed food I eat (and same goes for the family).

Finding bread that isn't ultra processed would be nice (I don't think Tesco sell a single loaf of it).

Any tips of cutting down UPF would be nice (obviously cooking everything from scratch would work, but that's hard work, so any 'processed' as opposed to 'ultra processed' options would help.

Assuming you don’t subscribe to the Telegraph?, which supermarkets are convenient for you? On breads, in May they had an article answering exactly that question. Too long to screenshot the lot and I’ll get a copyright bollocking from Bozza, I’ll pass on the winners within a post.

 

[Hugo Rune]

I’m in.

Goodbye beer.

Hello whisky!

 

[Weststander]

I’m in.

Goodbye beer.

Hello whisky!

I’m on a whisky diet. I’ve lost three days already.

(Tommy Cooper)

 

[Triggaaar]

If you read my comments on this thread, I have mainly been talking about Keto and how it works.

I've not been following all your comments, but Westander said he had yoghurt most evenings, Zeb said to be careful of low fat/fat free dairy products, and you replied that low fat/fat free is a big no no.

That's incorrect. It might not work for your keto, but low fat Greek yoghurt is not simply a no no.

And it is absolutely true that many (not all) low/no fat products have added sugar or artificial sweeteners. I can't remember me saying anywhere that the 0% Fage yoghurt is unhealthy or high sugar?

So no 'misinformation' from me.

You've now added 'many (not all)'. You didn't have to name FAGE, you said "low fat/fat free is a big no no" and that is misinformation. Obviously you didn't intend it to be, but what you wrote was incorrect

 

[Triggaaar]

Assuming you don’t subscribe to the Telegraph?, which supermarkets are convenient for you?

Tesco is most convenient.

On breads, in May they had an article answering exactly that question. Too long to screenshot the lot and I’ll get a copyright bollocking from Bozza, I’ll pass on the winners within a post.

Thanks.

Most of the convenient ready to eat food (obv not fruit) is bad for you. It would be nice to be able to have some easy food that's also not ultra processed. My breakfast is good, I often don't have much more than a banana for a quick snack at work, but then I'll get home and have crap like sausage rolls or other processed crap.

 

[Weststander]

Tesco is most convenient.




Thanks.

Most of the convenient ready to eat food (obv not fruit) is bad for you. It would be nice to be able to have some easy food that's also not ultra processed. My breakfast is good, I often don't have much more than a banana for a quick snack at work, but then I'll get home and have crap like sausage rolls or other processed crap.

The Tesco, Hovis and Kingsmill loaves reviewed, including wholemeal, were heavily criticised on health attributes. These appeared to be the clear winners, but not the right shops for you.

 

[PascalGroß Tips]

I've not been following all your comments, but Westander said he had yoghurt most evenings, Zeb said to be careful of low fat/fat free dairy products, and you replied that low fat/fat free is a big no no.

That's incorrect. It might not work for your keto, but low fat Greek yoghurt is not simply a no no.




You've now added 'many (not all)'. You didn't have to name FAGE, you said "low fat/fat free is a big no no" and that is misinformation. Obviously you didn't intend it to be, but what you wrote was incorrect

That’s your take … because of one product you have. I didn’t realise it was necessary to caveat every comment on here. I say again that many low fat products have either added sugar or are highly processed foods. So it’s something people should be aware of. Not all foods promoted as low fat are good for you.

That’s it from me on this. I’m not going to waste any more time playing ping pong on a 0% yoghurt.

 

[Triggaaar]

The Tesco, Hovis and Kingsmill loaves reviewed, including wholemeal, were heavily criticised on health attributes. These appeared to be the clear winners, but not the right shops for you.

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If going to Waitrose, I've seen the No. 1 Sourdough bread recommended as a 'real bread' - ie, not ultra processed. But I don't think there's any 'real bread' available from Tesco.

 

[Springal]

Agreed - 0% fat yoghurts early always have higher quantities of sugar than a 5% fat one for example.

A good quality 5% fat Skyr type yoghurt is ideal for those looking to lose weight

 

[Weststander]

That’s your take … because of one product you have. I didn’t realise it was necessary to caveat every comment on here. I say again that many low fat products have either added sugar or are highly processed foods. So it’s something people should be aware of. Not all foods promoted as low fat are good for you.

That’s it from me on this. I’m not going to waste any more time playing ping pong on a 0% yoghurt.

Aside from your debate with @Triggaaar it is often mentioned that special low fat versions of products can be of no benefit at all. They might contain far more sugar, starches and salt to counter the missing fat, whilst the removal of fat can also remove
key other nutrients.

Good article here.
https://zoe.com/learn/truth-about-low-fat-foods

 

[Couldn't Be Hyypia]

Look at the ingredients. Real bread has very very few.

No1 Sourdough: Wheat flour, wheat semolina, rye flour, wholemeal wheat flour, rapeseed oil, water, and salt

I'd say not UPF. Though if you can find it, buy real sourdough from a real baker.

 

[Weststander]

If going to Waitrose, I've seen the No. 1 Sourdough bread recommended as a 'real bread' - ie, not ultra processed. But I don't think there's any 'real bread' available from Tesco.

Until the Telegraph article and your post, I just assumed that wholemeal ticked every conceivable health box. Aside from the obvious gluten and carbs in moderation sides to it.

 

[PascalGroß Tips]

Aside from your debate with @Triggaaar it is often mentioned that special low fat versions of products can be of no benefit at all. They might contain far more sugar, starches and salt to counter the missing fat, whilst the removal of fat can also remove
key other nutrients.

Good article here.
https://zoe.com/learn/truth-about-low-fat-foods

That’s basically the point I was trying to make. Trying to be helpful to those that might just seek out low fat products thinking they must be more healthy. But I failed to dot all the i’s and cross the t’s for @Triggaaar and therefore I was spreading misinformation.

 

[Greg Bobkin]

I think this is a rather novel idea ! I like the idea of the target being 7lbs.

My only concerns are that those participating understand......this isn't a competition to lose the most weight.

I really need to lose about 30lbs, so 7lbs will be much easier for me to attain than those who only have 8 or 9 lbs to lose.

Good luck to all those giving it "a go".


I'm most definitely IN.

The only real competition is against yourself. But seeing other people get results is a big motivator for most people, no?

 

[Weststander]

Look at the ingredients. Real bread has very very few.

No1 Sourdough: Wheat flour, wheat semolina, rye flour, wholemeal wheat flour, rapeseed oil, water, and salt

I'd say not UPF. Though if you can find it, buy real sourdough from a real baker.

Sourdough - wasn’t there a nsc thread about it? Explaining that the handmade version slowly fermented by a baker for days is the real deal, whilst the supermarkets mass produced version doesn’t follow the true process and they include other ingredients?