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Pinkie Brown

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A 5.30 kick off on the Saturday isn't really an option as the event goes on until 6pm. Not having a 3pm kick off for the first day is disappointing, but given the nature of the event, I can live with it. Would prefer a change to Sunday personally.

We are due to play in the 1st Round of the League Cup the following week. Maybe the club could have a massive leaflet handout at Stanmer Park with vouchers for the Cheltenham game? Make it parents for a quid when accommodated by kids for those attending the Monsters event.
 


CheeseRolls

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Is this a mountain or a molehill ? I maybe missing some key facts somewhere, hence the question.

1 Has there been ANY dialogue between the organisers of this event and the football club ? If the answer is no, it is of no concern to the club if there is an adverse impact.

2 Other than traffic and please bear in mind this event starts at 10:00 in the morning, what is all the fuss about ? There is no football parking in Stanmer Park, the police are unlikely to be stretched by an under 10 event.

3 If I was planning to take my little darlings along to this event (bearing in mind they are 17 and 14 and are not going to thank me for this one), I would get there early and get away no later than 16:00, having sucked up as much wholesome family entertainment as is possible.

Where is the problem ?
 




Tim Over Whelmed

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To be honest I'll be quite happy if the council officers decide we have to move this to Friday night.

Understand the need to but for me that's yet another game my two young boys won't be able to attend, we do need to consider the value of children's ST, as I'm seriously thinking they miss too many due to late night KOs.
 


CheeseRolls

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For sure it's annoying to have the first game of the season zapped earlydoors.

On the other hand:

1. Little Monsters Bash doubtless applied to book Stanmer Park anything up to a year in advance. Albion fixtures are allocated about two months in advance. No city can plan the use of its available open spaces at two months notice. Besides, we all know that Albion fixture dates are purely provisional and subject to short notice, inconvenient change.

2. Little Monsters Bash is not all about Peppa Pig. Rise Events are organisers of the Little Monsters Bash in aid of the Tree of Hope. Tree of Hope offers hope to the families of sick and disabled children in the UK who need specialist medical surgery, treatment, therapy and equipment in order to free them from suffering, giving a better quality to their young lives.


Reckon its only right and proper that its the Albion who have to suck it up on this occasion, short-term annoying though it is.

How about you take some of that cynicism you applied to the Rik Mayall thread and use it here ?

Tree of Hope is a registered charity, what about Rise Events ?
What money WILL go to Tree of Hope and on what basis ?

I ask because I took a quick look and the answers weren't obvious and it maybe a handful of people shaking buckets outside the Amex could raise more ?

What sort of precedent does this set for the club and all of the associated match day functions (trains, buses, catering, stewards) ?
What other events and locations that the football club has no control over should be considered, when organising football fixtures ?
 


Tom Hark Preston Park

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How about you take some of that cynicism you applied to the Rik Mayall thread and use it here ?

What's that got to do with anything? Besides there was no cynicism involved, I just happened to float the opinion that he wasn't really very funny, in my opinion, like, and found myself on the receiving end of good old-fashioned NSC lynch mob. :shrug: . If it's any consolation I've been beating myself up about it ever since, with a frying pan to the head, while roaring with laughter like a 12 year old.

What sort of precedent does this set for the club and all of the associated match day functions (trains, buses, catering, stewards) ?
What other events and locations that the football club has no control over should be considered, when organising football fixtures ?

The precedent was already set when we moved into the Amex. An event in the vicinity that is booked a year in advance is almost always going to take precedent over one where the dates are allocated two months in advance and are subject to short-notice change e.g. for TV reasons. One event is fixed, the other is floating. What's so hard to understand?
 




CheeseRolls

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What's that got to do with anything? Besides there was no cynicism involved, I just happened to float the opinion that he wasn't really very funny, in my opinion, like, and found myself on the receiving end of good old-fashioned NSC lynch mob. :shrug: . If it's any consolation I've been beating myself up about it ever since, with a frying pan to the head, while roaring with laughter like a 12 year old.



The precedent was already set when we moved into the Amex. An event in the vicinity that is booked a year in advance is almost always going to take precedent over one where the dates are allocated two months in advance and are subject to short-notice change e.g. for TV reasons. One event is fixed, the other is floating. What's so hard to understand?

The cynicism referred to the blind acceptance that this was a wholly worthy event, as there is a charity name attached. I have no idea in this case, but there are many examples of good causes where the net benefit is marginal. I hope this event raises a substantial amount for the nominated charity. I also liked your response re Rik Mayall, so I will happily drop that one from now on.

As far as I am aware, matches have been moved for Gay Pride (on police advice) and Uni open days, (car parking availability). Is there any other precedent ? I really don't see this event being a major inconvenience to football supporters, or the police.
 


Gwylan

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As far as I am aware, matches have been moved for Gay Pride (on police advice) and Uni open days, (car parking availability). Is there any other precedent ? I really don't see this event being a major inconvenience to football supporters, or the police.

Boxing Day.

But I agree with you, not sure why this would be a problem - it's not going to attract tens of thousands of kids. And like others have said, could be a great marketing opportunity for the Albion
 


Tom Hark Preston Park

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The cynicism referred to the blind acceptance that this was a wholly worthy event, as there is a charity name attached. I have no idea in this case, but there are many examples of good causes where the net benefit is marginal.

Here's a link to the Tree of Hope website. It's a registered charity and looks to me to have done a lot to help a lot of poorly kids over a fair number of years.

http://www.treeofhope.org.uk/about-us/

Not sure about Rise Events admittedly, tried googling them with limited success, so I'm taking it as read that the Tree of Hope people have done the background checks on them and that the charity will benefit as they deserve to. I'm sure that an event of that sort would take a lot of pulling together and would probably otherwise be beyond the scope of a lot of charities, so hiring (presumably) professional event organisers wouldn't seem to be that unusual. They'd expect to be paid for their troubles, that's only fair, though hopefully not to the detriment of the charity concerned.
 




sparkie

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Understand the need to but for me that's yet another game my two young boys won't be able to attend, we do need to consider the value of children's ST, as I'm seriously thinking they miss too many due to late night KOs.

Good point, something I forget, rarely taking children to the AMEX.

I suppose someone in the council is making the decision at the moment.
 


wellquickwoody

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Genuinely asking for info here.

How big is this kids event in terms of the space it uses, and how many are likely to attend? For what reason can the two events not run alongside each other?
 


CheeseRolls

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Good point, something I forget, rarely taking children to the AMEX.

I suppose someone in the council is making the decision at the moment.

I have no idea why you would suppose this. The council as the planning authority can and have set certain conditions on the use of the stadium, but that does not include deciding kick off times.
 




sparkie

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I have no idea why you would suppose this. The council as the planning authority can and have set certain conditions on the use of the stadium, but that does not include deciding kick off times.

So it's the albion's decision when the kick off is ?

If not the council's decision , and not the albion's decision ( who surely would not care about this peppa pig event ), who decides ?
 


Eeyore

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So it's the albion's decision when the kick off is ?

If not the council's decision , and not the albion's decision ( who surely would not care about this event ), who decides ?

It would have to be those involved in transport logistics. I'm guessing the local Police are involved. Not that the event will require much of their manpower.
 


CheeseRolls

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So it's the albion's decision when the kick off is ?

If not the council's decision , and not the albion's decision ( who surely would not care about this peppa pig event ), who decides ?

It would have to be those involved in transport logistics. I'm guessing the local Police are involved. Not that the event will require much of their manpower.

Clubs decision within the rules and guidelines laid down by the league. Police have an advisory role. In reality clubs don't go against police advice.
 


sparkie

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Clubs decision within the rules and guidelines laid down by the league. Police have an advisory role. In reality clubs don't go against police advice.

OK, so I guess if it's up to club there is quite a good chance this will go ahead on the Saturday at 3 as originally scheduled ???
 




Mellotron

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I wanted to go to both anyway so I'm sorted.
 


Guy Fawkes

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Sep 29, 2007
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Surely if this Peppa Pig event was likely to affect the football, the club would have asked for an away game on that date but as they haven't, i'd assume that the 2 events can run side by side without any problems.

Sounds like some are over-thinking this.
 


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