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[Misc] London Overground lines renamed



A1X

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If they wanted to really trigger the gammon they should have named the Romford to Upminster line "The Brexit line", because when you look at the map it's on the far right
 




Beanstalk

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Weaver line is the best name out of the lot IMO. Think the Lioness line is a bit silly, and the suffragette line.
The Windrush and Weaver lines are the best names. Lioness is a bit silly but fine, the route is a bit of an event carrier from Euston to Wembley so it's quite fun to have that as the focus. Mildmay is too niche for such a long line and is a bit too much of a nod to East London for a line that only has 5 stops in East. The Suffragette line is a mouthful and a pretty loose connection seeing as the movement had its HQ on the Strand and Kingsway - would change that one but only for relevance.

The Liberty Line is not only a poor name but shouldn't exist anyway. This should've been an excuse to close Emerson Park and that underserved line.
 


Pavilionaire

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I've just returned from Paris, and having used the Metro quite a bit I've been struck by how many station names and place names are named after foreigners, battles or Former French and US Presidents. By comparison, we typically name after places, landmarks, royalty.

If we did things the French way we'd have stations named after Crecy, Agincourt, Trafalgar, Blenheim, El Alamein, JFK, Obama, Thatcher, Blair and Churchill.
 


bhafc99

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I'm not sure "Suffragette" and "Lioness" are words that feel like names. Something like "Pankhurst" might have worked better for the former for example.
 






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It is all depressingly “woke”. What is it with this country that now wants to idolise women , minority groups and perverts ?
Idolising white males has got us into a bit of a mess: time of change I guess?
 


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clapham_gull

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Sensible move.

I always though it a bit odd that they cobbled together old and new surface lines and branded the whole thing as "over ground" when the rest of the "network" (i.e. underground) have line names.

Like buses, visitors to London are a bit scared of them because they aren't sure what to make of it.
 




clapham_gull

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But really it's all a storm in a teacup - why name them like tube lines when they aren't tube lines? Line A, B, C and colour differentiation would do the job well enough.

Because they are just like tube lines and you can interchange between them to get around.

Single operator, same rolling stock with limited seating to get as many cattle to work and home again.

The renaming makes particularly visitors think of them as the underground, use them and take pressure off the tube.

Getting to QPR for instance. Brighton > Clapham Junction > Shepherds Bush.

Chelsea: Brighton > Clapham Junction > Imperial Wharf.

Much easier than the tube.
 
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Titanic

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Should we also start naming the main railway lines.... the 'Arun Valley Line' is a bit dull, surely we can find a suitable alternative? And the London-to-Brighton line... that will provide scope for something quite special?
 


Bakero

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The woke war on Gingers continues.

There'll be riots when they come for our biscuits, ginger cake and Valentin Barco.
 




clapham_gull

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It's quite funny. Anyone who lived in London prior to re-branding will remember the lines were previously named.

The "London Overground" name is relatively recent.

I remember the quite horrific Silverlink Metro which had individual line names like "North London Line" and " West London Line".

Nothing more than a return to the past, but with better trains.

Some people will complain about anything, particularly if they live outside of London, have a weird obsession with the Mayor and would rather drive (and park) anywhere.

In any case it was part of the Mayor's manifesto in 2021.

TfL’s London Overground network has grown considerably over recent years, and to reflect this I’ll launch a programme to name individual routes, giving each its own identity.

Londoners voted for it and the Mayor has delivered it.
 
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JOLovegrove

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People are just going to refer to them as their colours anyway.

“Take Orange all the way to …” etc

I bet they said that back on NSC when the Underground launched. Imagine saying Red or Blue for the Central or Picadilly lines these days.
 


Gabbiano

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Because they are just like tube lines and you can interchange between them to get around.

Single operator, same rolling stock with limited seating to get as many cattle to work and home again.

The renaming makes particularly visitors think of them as the underground, use them and take pressure off the tube.

Getting to QPR for instance. Brighton > Clapham Junction > Shepherds Bush.

Chelsea: Brighton > Clapham Junction > Imperial Wharf.

Much easier than the tube.
But without the same frequency or reliability. I think in some areas they don't have their own dedicated tracks and instead share them with normal trains, but I may stand to be corrected on that.

It's improving for sure, but it's not the same as the tube service. Spending several years having to rely on the South London (Windrush) Line to get anywhere taught me that.

Equally the Elizabeth Line is not a tube service in the traditional sense.
 




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They'll have to build a few more virtue signal boxes to cope with all of these.
Yeah. Where is Churchill, Thatcher, Coe, Moore (Tom and Bobby), and Johnson?
 


clapham_gull

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But without the same frequency or reliability. I think in some areas they don't have their own dedicated tracks and instead share them with normal trains, but I may stand to be corrected on that.

It's improving for sure, but it's not the same as the tube service. Spending several years having to rely on the South London (Windrush) Line to get anywhere taught me that.

Equally the Elizabeth Line is not a tube service in the traditional sense.

They also share the lines with the tube.....


They are inner city metro trains quite distinctive from (for example) the Southern Service which you get from Balham to Shepherds Bush.

In terms of frequency or reliability, depends where you want to go. They have far more in common with the underground.
 


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I've just returned from Paris, and having used the Metro quite a bit I've been struck by how many station names and place names are named after foreigners, battles or Former French and US Presidents. By comparison, we typically name after places, landmarks, royalty.

If we did things the French way we'd have stations named after Crecy, Agincourt, Trafalgar, Blenheim, El Alamein, JFK, Obama, Thatcher, Blair and Churchill.
Which Paris Metro station is named after an Italian electronic music band?

Or it could be vice versa. Or vice-versa?
 










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