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Lobby your MP - EDM 882







Cheshire Cat

The most curious thing..
Dear Mr Hall

I note from your website, your membership of the All Party Parliamentary Football Group, and the letter you sent to the Football Association dated 8 June 2005 regarding Northwich Victoria Football Club and its then financial problems. I also note that as part of your letter you stated that...

"The Club has a new stadium which, due to the overwhelming contribution of fans volunteering their help, was completed by 31/5/05" (my emphasis)

I would therefore request that you, as a supporter of active community involvement, lend your support to the Early Day Motion 882 which says:
Community Stadium for Brighton and Hove Albion FC

β€œThat this House regrets that, after more than five years, the planning application for the Brighton and Hove Community Stadium at Falmer is still unresolved; recognises the outstanding community, social and economic benefits and opportunities that the stadium would bring to the city and surrounding region; greatly appreciates the enormous contribution the stadium would make towards the regeneration of the deprived east Brighton area; acknowledges that these benefits amount to national considerations that weigh in favour of the stadium's development; recognises that Falmer is the only site in the city where a sustainable transport plan can be implemented; commends the Falmer stadium proposals to the Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government; and calls for the earliest possible decision in favour of the Falmer plans.”

You may be aware of the predicament of the sporting community of Brighton and Hove, who have for five years, since the planning application for the proposed community stadium was first submitted, been waiting on a final decision from the government.

You may recall that there has already been one 'final decision' in favour of the proposals, which are desperately needed to regenerate the deprived area of East Brighton, and safeguard the future of the football club which contributes so much to the local community. This first decision was withdrawn on a technicality, as an error had been made in the exact wording of the approval letter. Another final decision is awaited from the Secretary of State.

You will also be aware of the predicament of other local football clubs in this area in addition to Northwich Victoria, such as Chester City and Wrexham who have also suffered recent difficulties regarding their own grounds, finances, and league status. Wrexham in particular in 2005/06 almost suffered a similar predicament to Brighton and Hove Albion in terms of loosing their current ground.

You may not regard the case of Brighton and Hove Albion as a matter the affects you or your own constituency directly, but as being both one of your constituents and a supporter of Brighton and Hove Albion, I would argue that this decision is being made on a national basis, by national government, as it is deemed to be a matter of national concern. Your view should therefore matter, regardless of where you live or where/who you represent in the United Kingdom. I also note from your contributions to recent Adjournment Debates in the House of Commons (31 June 2006, 24 March 2005, 21 December 2004 and 22 July 2004) your own concerns for issues that are constituency based but have national implications. I would argue that this is similar issue, and that elected representatives should not seek to restrict their influence only to their immediate locality, but must also be attentive to the wider national interest. To this end I also note your speech of 9 November 2006 on Soldiers at War, and your support for the anti-hunting campaign (6 November 2004).

I would further point out that the supporters of Brighton and Hove Albion themselves have been active in supporting other clubs throughout the country, their struggles for survival, and their roles in their local communities (Northwich Victoria, Wrexham and Chester City included), especially since Brighton and Hove Albion's own pivotal role in the original Fans United day on 8 February 1997. As such they share your concerns for local issues that have wider and national implications.

I trust that you too will reject the parochialism that would be implicit in any refusal to support this motion on such grounds, and that you will be positive in your support of this Motion.

I look forward to your support and to welcoming Northwich Victoria to future fixtures at Falmer.



....unfortunately the useless toad says he doesn't sign any EDMs. So I put his reply in the most appropriate place I could find - in the shredder, then in the cat litter tray where the cat promptly did what she does best....:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: there goes another vote !!!!:salute: :censored: :salute: Maybe he didn't appreciate the Northwich Vics mention.
 


West Hoathly Seagull

Honorary Ruffian
Aug 26, 2003
3,544
Sharpthorne/SW11
paddy said:
Here's my response from Mr Loughton:
It is the fault of the original owners of the club and the local council that the Seagulls find themselves without a home after all these years following the debacle over the Goldstone ground.

Which party was in charge of Hove Council when they gave permission to the original owners to redevelop the Goldstone? Step forward.............................the Tories :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:
 


withdeanwombat

Well-known member
Feb 17, 2005
8,731
Somersetshire
"Thank you for your email and sympathy about QPR's 5-0 defeat to Southend!

I think it is best for the future of Brighton and Hove Albion's stadium to be resolved by the local council,the club and the Government's planning minister.I hope a suitable new stadium is developed soon which is better suited to a club of Brighton's status and catchment area.

Yours sincerely


Jeremy Brown MP

Member of Parliament for Taunton Constituency.












He has NOT signed.

withdeanwombat,ex LibDem voter in aforementioned Constituency.
 






butchy

Well-known member
Jul 24, 2005
1,953
Bethnal Green, E2
my mp has just replied to my email with this....

Dear Clement

I have had numerous discussions with Norman Baker over this, because I
have argued that the local council has lost the argument and should
have
dropped their objection. However, I also accept that the case is by no
means as straightforward as it looks, and it has been used by political
opponents to have a go at the local MP. People told Norman Baker that
he
would lose his seat over the issue, and he won with an 8000 majority. I
think he maintains the view that there are alternative sites available
and that the problem is caused by Brighton Council refusing to consider
other options. As such, while agreeing with the spirit of the EDM, I
can't put my name to it.
I would happily speak to you regarding this matter.

Kind regards

John Leech




wanker
 


Lawro's Lip

New member
Feb 14, 2004
1,768
West Kent
butchy said:
I
think he maintains the view that there are alternative sites available
and that the problem is caused by Brighton Council refusing to consider
other options.


This is not true though is it?:shootself
 


itszamora

Go Jazz Go
Sep 21, 2003
7,282
London
Got a personal letter from Nick Herbert (Arundel & South Downs) last week. To sum up, he says he's not going to sign as it's not in his constituency, but he's not going to oppose the development either, though he did give the usual concerned about it being in an AONB stuff.
 




Cheshire Cat

The most curious thing..
Barrel of Fun said:
Up to 32 signatures.

Keep up the good work everyone. :clap:

Are those that got rebuttals from their MPs going to write again?
Unfortunately no point with mine since he doesn't and won't sign any EDMs regardless of topic. I have tried before on other issues and got the same standard answer. :( :angry:
 


The Large One

Who's Next?
Jul 7, 2003
52,343
97.2FM
butchy said:
my mp has just replied to my email with this....

Dear Clement

I have had numerous discussions with Norman Baker over this, because I
have argued that the local council has lost the argument and should
have
dropped their objection. However, I also accept that the case is by no
means as straightforward as it looks, and it has been used by political
opponents to have a go at the local MP. People told Norman Baker that
he
would lose his seat over the issue, and he won with an 8000 majority. I
think he maintains the view that there are alternative sites available
and that the problem is caused by Brighton Council refusing to consider
other options. As such, while agreeing with the spirit of the EDM, I
can't put my name to it.
I would happily speak to you regarding this matter.

Kind regards

John Leech




wanker
I think some kind of polite rely is in order pointing out that Norman Baker is, in fact, wrong on both the council refusing to consider other sites (they had to - as part of the Public Inquiry), and as the point of there being another feasible site, where it has been proved by the Planning Inspectorate that there isn't - unless of course, Norman Baker considers himself a higher power to that, in which case he should state his authority in this matter. Failing that, he should belt up.
 


DTES

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
6,022
London
My MP Jim Dowd has now signed. I haven't heard back from him personally, so can't take full credit, but it's another name on the list :)
 




Sigull

'Arte et Marte'
Jul 16, 2003
363
Bracklesham Bay
Dear Anthony

Thank you for your recent email, regarding EDM 882,Community Stadium for Brighton & Hove Albion FC
I am pleased to inform you that I have now added my name to the list of signatures in support of the motion, as I too recognise this important issue.
Thank you for bringing this motion to my attention

Yours sincerely

Laura Moffatt
Member of Parliament for Crawley

:clap2: :clap2: well done Laura...Ta
 
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Starry

Captain Of The Crew
Oct 10, 2004
6,733
Barrel of Fun said:
Up to 32 signatures.

Keep up the good work everyone. :clap:

Are those that got rebuttals from their MPs going to write again?

My mother has written a stern letter to Sir George Young telling him that just because at the time he knew nothing of your situation it is no excuse for him to not to investigate and educate himself over it. And also, that his NIMBY/doesn't affect my constituency stance over this EDM did not stop him poking his beak in various other constituencies matters as and when it suited him.

Though she worded it much nicer than I have here.

Waiting for a response.
 




godalming gull

New member
Feb 28, 2007
6
Surrey
Dear

Thank you very much for your email regarding EDM 882 regarding the Brighton and Hove Community Stadium at Falmer.

I was very sorry to hear what a protracted process this planning application has been, and realise how frustrating this five year wait must have been for all involved in Brighton's sporting community.

I do appreciate the community, social and economic benefits that the stadium would bring to the city and surrounding region, and am particularly interested in the advantages it could have for the more deprived east Brighton area.

I am supportive of this EDM in principle, and am currently looking into the possibility of adding my name, as there are some restrictions on what I can sign as a frontbencher. I will let you know when I have heard anything further. In the meantime I wish you all the best with the campaign.

Thanks again for bringing this issue to my attention. Please do not hesitate to contact me if there are further issues that you wish to raise.

Best wishes,

Jeremy Hunt
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Jeremy Hunt
Member of Parliament
South West Surrey


:thumbsup: you know you want to :thumbsup:


First post btw. Good evening to you all.
 


Withnail

Member
Jan 16, 2004
919
Lincoln
Welcome Godalming Gull. :wave:

Not even a reply from Douglas Hogg from my email on 12th. :angry:
 


Barrel of Fun

Abort, retry, fail
This is a list of MPs and their constituency, who have signed motions relating to football in the past. Maybe worth a shot digging out old friends/neighbours friends/work mates/aunties/dog sitters etc. who may live in these areas.

Some have already signed...

Abbott, Diane – L - Hackney North and Stoke Newington
Anderson, David – L – Blaydon
Anderson, Janet – L – Rossendale & Darwen
Austin, John – L – Erith & Thamesmead
Baker, Norman - L/D – Lewes :rollseyes:
Barrett, John – C – Billericay
Beith, AJ – L/D – Berwick-upon-Tweed
Benyon, Richard – C – Newbury
Betts, Clive – L – Sheffield Attercliffe
Borrow, David S – L – South Ribble
Bottomley, Peter – C – Worthing West
Brady, Graham – C – Altrincham & Sale West
Brooke, Annette – L/D – Mid Dorset and North Poole
Browne, Jeremy – L/D – Taunton
Buck, Karen – L – Regents Park & Kensington North
Burgon, Colin – L – Elmet
Burns, Simon – C – West Chelmsford
Burrowes, David – C – Enfield Southgate
Burstow, Paul – L/D – Sutton & Cheam
Burt, Lorely – L/D – Solihull
Butterfill, John – C – Bournemouth West
Cable, Vincent – L/D – Twickenham
Campbell, Gregory - DUP - Londonderry East
Campbell, Ronnie – L – Blythe Valley
Caton, Martin – L – Gower
Challen, Colin – L – Morley and Rothwell
Chaytor, David – L – Bury North
Clapham, Michael – L – Barnsley West and Penistone
Clappison, James – C – Hertsmere
Clark, Greg – C – Tunbridge Wells
Clark, Katy – L – North Ayrshire & Arran
Clelland, David – L – Tyne Bridge
Cohen, Harry – L – Leyton & Wanstead
Conway, Derek - C - Old Bexley and Sidcup
Corbyn, Jeremy – L – Islington North
Crabb, Stephen – C - Preseli Pembrokeshire
Cryer, Ann – L – Keighley
Curry, David – C – Skipton & Ripon
Davey, Edward – L/D – Kingston & Surbiton
Davies, David TC – C – Monmouth
Dean, Janet – L – Burton
Dismore, Andrew – L – Hendon
Dobbin, Jim – L – Heywood & Middleton
Dodds, Nigel – DUP – Belfast North
Doran, Frank – L – Aberdeen North
Dorrell, Stephen – C – Charnwood
Dowd, Jim – L – Lewisham West
Drew, David - L – Stroud
Eagle, Angela – L – Wallasey
Ellwood, Tobias – C – Bournemouth East
Engel, Natascha – L – North East Derbyshire
Ennis, Jeff – L – Barnsley East & Mexborough
Etherington, Bill – L – Sunderland North
Evans, Nigel - C - Ribble Valley
Farron, Timothy – L/D – West Morland & Lonsdale
Featherstone, Lynne – L/D – Hornsey & Wood Green
Field, Mark – C – Cities of London & Westminster
Fisher, Mark – L – Stoke-on-Trent Cntral
Flynn, Paul – L – Newport West
Foster, Don – L/D – Bath
Foster, Michael Jabez – L – Hastings & Rye
Francis, Hywel – L – Aberavon
Galloway, George – Respect – Bethnal Green & Bow
George, Andrew - L/D – St Ives
Gerrard, Neil – L – Walthmstow
Gibson, Ian - L - Norwich North
Gidley, Sandra – L/D – Romsey
Godsiff, Roger - L - Birmingham Sparkbrook and Small Heath
Goodman, Helen – L – Bishop Auckland
Goodman, Paul - C – Wycombe
Greening, Justine – C – Putney
Hall, Patrick – L – Bedford
Hamilton, Fabian – L – Leeds North East
Hancock, Mike - L/D - Portsmouth South
Hands, Greg – C – Hammersmith & Fulham
Harris, Evan – L/D – Oxford West & Abingdon
Harvey, Nick – L/D – North Devon
Hemming, John - L/D - Birmingham Yardley
Hendrick, Mark – L – Preston
Heyes, David – L – Ashton under Lyne
Hoey, Kate - L – Vauxhall
Holmes, Paul – L/D – Chesterfield
Hopkins, Kelvin – L – Luton North
Horwood, Martin – L/D – Cheltenham
Howarth, David – L/D – Cambridge
Hoyle, Lindsay – L – Chorley
Hunter, Mark – L/D – Cheadle
Illsley, Eric – L – Barnsley Central
Jackson, Glenda – L – Hampstead & Highgate
James, Sian C – L – Swansea East
Jenkins, Brian – L – Tamworth
Jones, David – C – Clwyd West
Jones, Kevan – L – North Durham
Jones, Lynne – L – Birmingham Selly Oak
Jones, Martyn – L – Clwyd South
Kawczynski, Daniel – C – Shrewsbury & Atcham
Keeley, Barbara – L – Northampton North
Keen, Alan – L – Feltham & Heston
Kemp, Fraser – L – Houghton & Washington East
Key, Robert – C – Salisbury
Khan, Sadiq – L – Tooting
Kirkbride, Julie – C – Bromsgrove
Kumar, Ashok – L – Middlesborough South & East Cleveland
Leech, John – L/D - Manchester Withington
Lewis, Julian – C – New Forest East
Lloyd, Tony – L – Manchester Central
Llwyd, Elfyn – Plaid Cymru - Meirionnydd Nant Conwy
Lucas, Ian – L – Wrexham
MacKay, Andrew - C - Bracknell
Marshall, David – L – Glasgow East
Mates, Michael – C – East Hampshire
McCafferty, Chris – L – Calder Valley
McCarthy, Kerry – L – Bristol East
McDonnell, Alasdair - SDLP - Belfast South
McDonnell, John – L – Hayes & Harlington
McGovern, Jim – L – Dundee West
McGrady, Eddie – SDLP – South Down
Moffatt, Laura – L – Crawley
Mulholland, Greg – L/D – Leeds North West
Murphy, Denis – L – Wansbeck
Murphy, Paul – L – Torfaen
Murrison, Andrew – C –Westbury
Neill, Bob – L – Bromley & Chislehurst
O'Hara, Edward – L – Knowsley South
Osborne, Sandra – L – Ayr Carrick and Cumnock
Pelling, Andrew – C – Croydon Central
Penning, Mike – C – Hemel Hempstead
Pope, Greg - L - Hyndburn
Prentice, Gordon – L – Pendle
Prosser, Gwyn – L – Dover
Pugh, John – L/D – Southport
Rennie, Willie - L/D - Dunfermline and West Fife
Riordan, Linda – L – Halifax
Robinson, Iris - DUP - Strangford

Russell, Bob - L/D - Colchester
Scott, Lee - C - Ilford North
Selous, Andrew – C – South West Bedofrdshire
Sheridan, Jim – L – Paisley & Renfrewshire North
Simpson, Alan – L – Nottingham South
Singh, Marsha – L – Bradford West
Smith, Geraldine – L – Morecambe and Lunesdale
Soulsby, Peter – L – Leicester South
Spellar, John – L – Warley
Spink, Bob – C – Castle Point
Stewart, Ian – L – Eccles
Stoate, Howard – L – Dartford
Stringer, Graham - L - Manchester Blackley
Stunell, Andrew – L/D – Hazel Grove
Swinson, Jo – L/D – East Dunbartonshire
Tami, Mark – L – Alyn & Deeside
Taylor, David - L - North West Leicestershire
Taylor, Matthew – L/D – Truro & St Austell
Thornberry, Emily – L – Islington South & Finsbury
Todd, Mark – L – South Derbyshire
Tredinnick, David – C – Bosworth
Truswell, Paul – L – Pudsey
Turner, Desmond – L – Brighton Kemptown
Vaz, Keith – L – Leicester East
Vis, Rudi – L – Finchley and Golders Green
Wallace, Ben – C – Lancaster & Wyre
Widdecombe, Ann – C – Maidstone & The Weald
Williams, Betty – L – Conwy
Williams, Stephen – L/D – Bristol West
Willis, Phil – L/D – Harrogate & Knaresborough
Willott, Jenny – L/D – Cardiff Central
Winterton, Ann – C – Congleton
Wishart, Pete- SNP – Perth and North Perthshire
Wright, Anthony D – L – Great Yarmouth
Wyatt, Derek – L – Sittingbourne & Sheppey
Yeo, Tim – C – Suffolk South
 
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hans kraay fan club

The voice of reason.
Helpful Moderator
Mar 16, 2005
62,773
Chandlers Ford
reply from Sandra Gidley MP [Lib, Romsey]

Thank you for your e mail of 9 February 2007. I am sorry but I am not able to sign this particular EDM as it is not within my constituency, and I am not fully aware of the local pros and cons of the situation.

I am sorry I am not able to help on this occasion.

Yours sincerely....






Obviously I shall be replying, but I don't know whether to;

a. Tell her to bloody well, go and appraise herself of the facts
b. To tell her that, as 'Lib Dem Shadow Minister for Health' she ought to recognise the benefits of a healthy sporting community perfectly well.
c. Ask her to look up 'sincerely' in the dictionary.
 








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